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Porrini/Kalispell Hilton Garden Inn FAA Response- Fred and Connie Leistio From: "Phil Porrini" <phil@rpa-hln.com> To: <fleistiko@centurytel.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:42 AM Attach: -.dat u Subject: Kalispell Hilton Garden Inn -FAA Response Fred: Yesterday after another month of waiting, I called and received this response to the latest information that was sent to the FAA regarding the Kalispell City Airport airspace. Phil, The Western Flight Procedures Office had a chance to evaluate the drawings you provided and provided these comments: I have reviewed the 8/30/06 package of engineering DWG's and survey data prepared by Robert Peccia & Associates for the f4 proposed Hilton Garden Inn at Kalispell, MT. DWG F clearly shows the crux of the problem. The Kalispell City Airport (S27) future RWY31 IFR 40:1 Departure Obstruction Clearance Surface is penetrated by the proposal. The DWG note... "DEPARTURE SLOPE ELEVATIONS WERE CALCULATED BY ADDING 35'- 0" TO RUNWAY THRESHOLD ELEVATIONS AS PER TERPS, VOLUME 4 CHAPTER 1.3 (DEPARTURE OCS APPLICATION)."is misleading; and, understates the amount of penetration. The actual TERPS wording is..."Adjust the origin height up to 35 feet above the DER as necessary to clear obstacles (see figure 1- 2). Evaluate proposed obstacles assuming the OCS origin is at DER elevation." Since this is a proposal, the OCS (Obstacle Clearance Surface) starts at the DER (Departure End of Runway) elevation; not 35' above, as mentioned in the DWG's note. The theory here is not to allow new obstructions to be built in the future IFR departure area, even if that departure area is already dirty. With respect to "Marking and lighting"...it can only serve as mitigation under VMC (Visual Meteorological Conditions). Under IMC (Instrument Meteorological Conditions) the obstructions lights are of limited value. Pilots operating IFR under FAR Part 91, can and occasionally do depart under zero -zero conditions. In my professional opinion this proposal will be a hazard to future IFR operations at Kalispell City Airport. Please call or email me with any revisions to the proposal. So it seems that the small penetrations into 34:1 approach slopes are not an issue. I was told that they can be mitigated with obstruction lights (although 9/27/2006 _ -a_ - ___ this representative of the FAA claims they are of limited value). The problem lies with the ultimate 40:1 departure slope during instrument procedures taking off (departing) to the north. It must be emphasized that currently the Kalispell City Airport is approved for Visual Flight Rules (VFR) only. There is no current, nor am I aware of any pending, Instrument Flight Rules (IFR) for this airport. The likelihood of obtaining such is highly dependant on surrounding features, FAA funding, and rather exhausting investigation and evaluation by the FAA Flight Procedures Office. Though the FAA allows for 35 ft to clear existing obstacles on an instrument departure slope, they do not want new 'obstructions' to be built. Thus this proposed building, would penetrate the 40:1 departure slope, when starting at the threshold elevation. Numerous problems are associated with northbound IFR departures: a) flights directly over the densely populated area of the city, including the Central Business District (CBD), b) flights would be in conflict with published IFR approaches and departures from Glacier Park International Airport (GPIA), c) existing obstacles already exist in the northbound 40:1 departure slope, including hangars, hotel, light poles, etc. (Some or all of these may not be a 'problem' since they exist and the 35 ft allowance can be used). Given the FAA position, the City must now decide on whether they have a future interest in northbound instrument departures. If there is a desire for a future IFR departure to the north, the Hilton is a problem. Construction of the hotel now will likely create future issues with the FAA when the airport applies for Federal Funds and especially when a future instrument procedure is requested. If the City, at this time, does not envision an IFR departure to the north, they can make their intentions known in a letter to the FAA, which would amend the current ALP. After you have had a chance to review this information please call me. I'd be willing to meet with you and Jim Patrick to further discuss the options and course of action. I am also willing to more formally put these comments into writing if you need them . Philip P. Porrini @ Robert Peccia & Associates P.O. Box 5653, 825 Custer Avenue Helena, MT 59604 (406) 447-5000 (406) 447-5036 fax (406) 439-8755 cell email: phil@rpa-hln.com 9/27/2006