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Eckels Reflections and ThanksHi Jane I really liked your comment about the "spirit and intent of the law". I thought I would forward some ordinances that I presented earlier this summer that reflect what you are referring to. Bozeman, Missoula and Dayton have ordinances that are very very simple and address the end goal. (Perhaps there could be a preamble addressing the spirit, goal and intent of the ordinance....) Even the current Kalispell noise law 19.10 is in the ballpark in this regard. I especially like the concept of "any" and "unnecessary noise". This protects construction etc. that is necessary and requires that "unnecessary noise" be removed. That is why training laps fall into this category - they are completely unnecessary - Cindy Martin, general manager at Glacier International Airport may be able to add perspective: 406-257-5994 (press 8). Thanks for all you do! Steve "Spirit of the Law" I like the simplicity of Dayton’s code - In fact I would have to say I love it; perhaps we should just use Dayton's!: Sec. 94.04. Unnecessary noise prohibited. No person shall make, continue, or cause to be made or continued any loud, unnecessary or unusual noise or any noise which either annoys, disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, or safety of others, within the limits of the city. (Ord. 16964, passed 8-2-50) Cross references: Penalty, see § 94.99. Or Missoula: It is the public policy of the city that every person is entitled to live in an environment where ambient noise levels are not detri­mental of life, health and enjoyment of his property and community. It is declared that the making, creation and maintenance of excessive and unnecessary noises within the city is illegal. Or Bozeman 8.30.010 Purpose The City Commission of the City of Bozeman hereby enacts this ordinance to protect, preserve, and promote the health, safety, welfare, peace, and quiet of the citizens of the City of Bozeman through the reduction, control, and prevention of raucous noise, or any noise which unreasonably disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace, or safety of reasonable persons of ordinary sensitivity. (Ord. 1539 § 1, 2001) Cindy Martin may be a good resource person for thinking this issue through. Cindy is the general manager of Glacier International Airport. Her phone number is 406-257-5994 (press 8). ---She took issue with, and was dismayed by the claim made by some pilots that training at Glacier Airport was "inconvenient". She made it unequivocally clear that the Glacier has more than enough capacity for training exercises. Further, she disputed the argument that Glacier was inconvenient in any of the other ways we have heard from aviators at recent meetings. She says GPI would not enter our city discussion uninvited, but that if we approached her, she would be happy to answer questions and share ideas. She reminded me that people do not own the air over their houses - so that control of aviation must be exerted on the ground level.