06-24-85 Street & Alley Comm Minutes0
• June 24, 1985 SEWER AND WATER/STREET AND ALLEY COMMITTEE 3:30 P.M.
Chairmen Nystul and Palmer, Councilmen Springer, Saverud, and Ruiz in
attendance. Mayor McDowell, DPW Hammer, Surveyor Zavodny,-Water Foreman
Steve Cox, Dan Ewing, Bob Hafferman, Brad Wright, Jim Sharon, Sakkie Pretorius,
and Roger Hopkins of the Daily Interlake also present.
EWING'S - Discussion of existing services running through Ewing lot,
relocation of alley with conditions, very old right of way from original
Idaho and disbursement of property after abandonment. Kalispell Lumber does
not have easement at this time, although a city utilities easement is grand -
fathered in on the abandoned road area. DPW Hammer recommended that it would
be in the City's best interest to relocate the water lines so as to abandon
the line in the ancient right of way. Discussion of who should be responsible
for paying for the new water line. There was some difference of opinion
but because the line is over 50 years old the consensus was that it should
be treated as a replacement in line with street reconstruction replacement
programs. C. Nystul made a motion to replace the water main between 7th
and 8th along the north edge of the right of way and the south edge of the
highway. C. Ruiz seconded. The vote was 2 in favor, one opposed.
Sewer - Kalispell Lumber has no other options. There are two problems -
the proposed building will be over the existing sewer line, and Kalispell
Lumber has no easement for the sewer. A possible solution would be clean -outs
• on either side of the building to provide access to the line. In case of
future problems sleeving was discussed. This is City business only if the
alley is relocated in the future. Discussion of need for an additional manhole
if the alley is abandoned and there are plans for putting a building over
the existing alley. Cannot build over a main.
Committee asked that there be an agreement between Ewings and Kalispell
Lumber as to the dispensation of the maintenance of the sewer line, and a
15' easement for the water line adjacent to Hwy 2 between 7th Avenue W.N.
and 8th Avenue W.N.,,to be recorded before building permit is issued.
Future expansion - The existing manhole and old main will serve as part
of the service line to Kalispell Lumber, and Ewings and the laundermat would
be separate lines to a new manhole, in theright of way, provided by Ewings.
The manhole needs to be done before the laundermat hooks on, to prevent the
existing line from being a main. C. Nystul made a motion to accept the policy
of the private line and the manhole required on the south end of the property
if there is going to be any future abandonment of the alley. Committee in
agreement.
DHES - KELLER OCCASIONAL SALE - Committee requested that Marquardt write
a letter to the City requesting confirmation that the City would serve "either
one or both of the properties", which letter would provide the DHES, Water
Quality Bureau with the information which they need.
GREENACRES WEST SEWER RATES - The Committee agreed with the City Attorney's
• findings that the rates "were adjusted legally, and under proper procedure,
and that Greenacres West Association is not entitled to a recomputation of
billing." (Copy of findings attached to original minutes.)
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STEBBINS ADDITION #178 - Request for extension of sewer main. The choice
here is (1) $5,400 cost to the developers, or (2) developer's extension agree-
ment which would include 4 other parcels. C. Springer made a motion to allow
the developer's extension agreement. Committee concured.
JIM SHARON - 5TH AVENUE EAST SEWER EXTENSION - Discussion of possible
solutions included the City accepting the existing 6" line as a main (although
the standards call for an 8"), or the City allowing a service to be attached
to a service - but either way would be against policy. Sharon indicated
that Walker wanted $15,000 for an easement. He asked for help with negotiations
with Walker as being in the City's best interest for future needs. C. Nystul
indicated the City needs to look at the whole area in light of long range
needs. The Committee asked for a sketch of a conceivable plan for getting
service to Mr. Sharon.
PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING FOR 4TH, 5TH, AND 6TH AVE. W. SERVICE EXTENSIONS
C. Nystul reported on the Public Meeting and the favorable response frdm-'
those present to both sewer and water extensions and annexation.
CHURCH OF CHRIST (ASHLEY ADDITION) - Pastor Sakkie Pretorius requested
the City to bring the alley flush with or close to the lot line, while still
• on the church's property so that the church could make better use of the
land. The alley is not in use at this time, but is plotted. Sewer line
is under the plotted alley. Committee agreed that there was no problem with
the request with the condition that there be right of way and easement for
utilities, and the church not be allowed to build on the area. Surveyor
Zavodny is to draw up an agreement, subject to approval by the City Attorney,
to be given to the church. This will be taken to Council.
MONTESSORI SCHOOL ADDITION - Fire Department approved the plans. Discussion
of City liability by allowing parking in the right of way. The Committee
agreed that they would like to see the parking in the right of way eliminated
and the cul de sac improved.
LOST PROPERTY CORNERS - O'NEIL PROPERTY ADJACENT TO WOODLAND AVENUE -
Surveyor Zavodny explained that the installation of storm sewer and street
work was responsible for tearing out the pins. State law says that whoever
tears then out must replace them. Committee instructed Surveyor Zavodny
to hire someone to replace the pins.
COST OF RADIUS FOR CURBING AND CORNER LOTS - POLICY - Discussion included
the costs and benefits of living on a corner lot. DPW Hammer explained the
three different types of policy: Cost is added into entire project, the City
pays, and the corner property owner pays. Another suggestion was that
since this is the public right of way that it be divided up between everyone
on the street. There are problems with each idea. The Committee in the
isend recommended that the City continue on as they have been. (Motion was
made during the discussion that the City pay for the radius, but was withdrawn
after further discussion.)
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EUGENE ARNESON CURB CUT - Committee approved curb cut in new curbing.
DAVE CREVIER CURB CUT - 117 W. Nevada - Committee approved continuous
curb cut.
GARBAGE SERVICE TO BUSINESSES - NEW SYSTEM - DPW Hammer presented
information from City Code indicating there was nothing to prevent the City
from providing service. Committee agreed.
Meeting adjourned at 5:30 P.M.
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