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11-05-86 Parking Comm Minutes:_ , November 5, 1986 PARKING COMMISSION 4:00 P.M. Chairman Gordon Pirrie and Commission members Harry Farrington, Bob Ivey, and Colin Wills in attendance. Mayor Kennedy, Chief Stefanic, Ed Gallagher, Tom O'Neil and Phil Neuharth also present. Gordon Pirrie requested that Clerk Halver be invited to the next meeting to explain the budget. He also requested that a printout of the breakdown of PC salaries be provided. NORTHWESTERN TELEPHONE REQUEST - It was suggested that rather than approving 5 spaces on Main Street that the spaces be given on Washington, but it was felt that they wouldn't get the usage and would end up tying up those spaces. Colin Wills made a motion to begin with three spaces on Main Street and to review that decision in three months or at the request of the phone company. The motion passed unanimously. KALISPELL BEAUTY PRODUCTS REQUEST - After discussion of the purpose of parking spaces the Commission decided to send a letter asking the owner of Kalispell Beauty Products to contact the owners of the Montana Building _ regarding leasing -space for parking from them. The letter should also -advise-- that spaces are for customers, not owners. SONS OF NORWAY OFFER TO REMOVE PARKING METER BASES - The Commission felt that there might be a chance that meters would be used again in the future • and they were not ready to remove the bases. The Sons of Norway will be notified that their offer is appreciated and they will be told if the Commission changes this position. FUNDING FOR 2-HOUR PARKING SIGNS - These signs cost approximately $60 each. There are some funds in the budget. Chief Stefanic will put together the costs for the nimber of signs needed. Gordon Pirrie stated there would be no problem mounting a sign on his building and probably could do the same on the hotel. It was questioned whether signs could be humg under lights or on light poles next to the No Left Turn signs. The Chief will check into these questions. It was felt that the cost of good signage would be retrieved from higher parking lot usage. BURLINGTON NORTHERN LOT - The Council approved leasing this lot contingent upon the Parking Commission's agreement with the conditions of the rental agreement: $350/month plus 70% of all income over and above the $350/month, plus the total amount of all taxes. The Commission felt it was imperative that a dollar figure be given for the taxes before an agreement was signed. Mayor Kennedy will follow through on this. The Commission agreed to test the leasing of this lot with $8.00/month. It will be a lease lot only. Liability insurance is required by the lot and the City at this point does not have this liability insurance. • Entrances and exits were discussed and then left up to Chief Stefanic to work out. Gordon Pirrie stated that he had talked with the Chamber and told them they would be charged for parking in this lot. The suggestion was made that this lot might be separated into two to cut down on the problem of vehicles cutting through to avoid the lights at Main and Center. It was felt the plot should be opened and changes could be made as necessary. �vr PARKING COMMISSION November 5, 1986 Is Page 2 O'NEIL LOT PURCHASE - Bob Ivey and Colin Wills reported that after additional checking they recommended the purchase of the 8 lots. They felt this property was good for the City and at a good price even though presently that is a low demand area for parking. In addition to purchasing the lot they also felt that the Council should then pass an ordinance banning employees, employers and college students from parking on City streets, which would then cause the lots to be used to capacity. There was discussion of making the sale conditional upon passage of such an ordinance but it was decided that was not fair to Mr. O'Neil and the time factor would draw it out too long. After discussion a motion was made to recommend the purchase of the lot contingent upon an appraisal. Chief Stefanic stated that additional help would be needed to enforce such an ordinance - probably two additional persons. The question is whether the increased revenue would cover the costs. In addition to the prohibiting part of the ordinance the Commission felt that the two-hour limit parking should be extended to take in 2nd, 3rd and 4th Avenues East and West to clear those neighborhoods. Permits would be issued for residents so -they would not be ticketed. Ed Gallagher suggested thattheCommission put together the information, work through Council liason Palmer, have the City Attorney approve the ordinance, and present it to a working session of the Council. • Colin Wills agreed to arrange for an appraisal and also to count the vehicles parked on the first four avenues east and west from Center to 6th Street so the Commission will have some figures to work with. Bob Ivey will get a copy of the Salem, Oregon parking ordinance. A copy of the Missoula parking ordinance will be included with the minutes to each Commission member. Tom O'Neil requested a buy -sell with a Council approval contingency that will cover both parties and allow him to remove the property from the market. That will be done. aj g CJ