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PARKS/PUBLIC LANDS/ANNEXATION/ZONING/AIRPORT
COMMITTEE MEETING
November 22, 1988
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
COMMITTEE MEMBER ABSENT
OTHERS PRESENT:
Noel Furlong
Jim Atkinson
Roger Hopkins
John Gunnerson
Glen Neier, City Attorney
Mike Baker, Parks Director
David Greer
Dan Johns
Bud Anderson
Mike Strand
4:00 P.M.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Furlong at 4:08 P.M. C.
Furlong asked Parks Director Mike Baker for a report from his department.
Baker said he had received a request from the State Parks Department
for Region 1 for someone from the Parks Committee to participate in
developing the preferred alternative for entrance fees for State
Parks. This person would sit in on a public hearing on December 1,
7:00 P.M. at the Winchester Room at the Outlaw Inn. He said they are
going to discuss season passes, entrance fees, etc. and to hear the
voice of the public. He stated it was part of the Citizen Park
Participation Program. Councilman Atkinson volunteered. There was a
discussion about whether or not they had to get permission from the
State Legislature to charge entrance fees.
Baker also talked about what was going on in the Parks Department.
He said they were just finishing up the leaf pickup and they were
waiting for the weather to turn so they could get some ice started at
Woodland Park. He said they had started the ice skating lesson
signup today. He explained the first two weeks had already been
cancelled because of lack of ice, and scheduled for the second week
in December. He gave a short background on the instructor, LuAnn
Pittman.
Baker said they were looking at purchasing a sweeper for their tractor
for the ice skating rink, sidewalks and parking lots. He said it
could also be used for leaf pickup.
Baker said there was a school being offered this fall dealing with
raising revenue, contracts mangement, etc. He said he also had to
ensure that his foreman got to an aquatic school this spring.
There was a discussion about the Woodland Waterworks Project that
Russell School is involved with. Baker said they had raised somewhere
between $3000-$4000 and the money wasn't all in yet from the raffle
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tickets. He explained what this money would be used for. He said
•the money would not be given to us, the school kids wanted to pay the
bills and decide how the money would be spent.
Annexation
Dav�r stated that Wayne Wolvert had applied to have the Kalispell
Zoning Ordinance amended to include paint and body shops in a B-3
zoning classification, which is community business. He said the
Planning Board held a public hearing and his office had written a
staff report and come to the conclusion that that particular use did
not fit the flavor of a community business zoning district, so they
would recommend denial, and the Planning Board had also come to that
conclusion. A public hearing was scheduled with the City Council on
December 19 and the Council will either act on it after the public
hearing or remand it to the Annexation Committee for decision.
Proposed Baseball Lease.
C. Furlong presented the new re -negotiated lease. C. Atkinson asked
if this lease covered the ball field plus the other location. Doug
Johns said no, it was strictly Griffin Field. There was a lengthy
discussion about the irrigation, fertilizer and utilities negotiations.
City Attorney Neier stated that there had been a provision placed in
the new lease that the Lakers police and pick up all litter resulting
from use of the field for its baseball activities, and maintenance
and repairs. Some of other changes and additions were discussed --under
Item 6 the City Parks Director will approve the use fee, and under
•Item #7 the City Parks Director shall schedule the activities on the
multi -purpose field. C. A. Neier also mentioned that another addition
is if the City gets a minor league professional baseball team the
City and the Lakers shall agree to use Griffin Field in such a manner
to facilitate both programs and share equally in the net revenue
because of the use by the minor league professional. team. Another
change allows the City along with the Lakers to join in with the Babe
Ruth Baseball League and Soccer Club to develop that second field as
a multi -sports facility.
C. Atkinson asked Neier if he felt there was provision enough for the
City to get out of the lease if deemed necessary? Neier said there
is a basis in the case of default, but no basis just to say we don't
want this lease anymore and want to get out of it.
The re -negotiation clause was discussed. C. Furlong said he had an
objection to the fact that if there is no mutual agreement the lease
still continues. He said in 5 years time we'll have a lot better
view on both sides as to how well the lease is going and we can
negotiate from that position.
There was a discussion of the 1% rental fee, essentially there would
be no money passed, it would be in -kind services. C. Atkinson asked
Neier if he could foresee the City losing out monetarily, does it
preclude the Lakers from requiring any further services or products,
•etc. into the development of the field? Neier read the clause
stating what services the City had to perform and said he thought it
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was Baker's long-range plan to develop that entire area both north
and south of the highway that's owned by the City as a park, so as
far as capital improvements to the premises there's nothing in this
lease that obligates us to do anything more than we've already done.
There was more discussion on the use of the fertilizer and development
and maintenance of Griffin Field. C. Furlong stated that with the
language in Item 9 the way it is now we could end up using all of the
park money on Griffin Field and he could not in any manner justify
that. He said he didn't think we could commit that we're going to
spend whatever is necessary to keep this field in a pristine condition
when we know that we have limited funds to deal with. Baker asked if
there was a way we could word this so that it says that we want to
maintain a quality baseball field? C. Hopkins asked where do our
priorities lie? With this language it looks like Griffin Field is a
priority. Johns said if something happens to the turf the City is
obligated to replace it. C. Hopkins asked if this would have to be
done immediately, Johns said at least for the next baseball season.
C. Hopkins said maybe there would be a case where the money wasn't
there for two or three years. After further discussion it was
decided to strike the last two lines of Item 9.
At this point Bud Anderson spoke in favor of turning the negotiations
over to the Council and getting this over with. Johns agreed and
said he would like this brought to a conclusion, as we are just going
through the lease again line by line and not accomplishing anything.
•He said the lease as it is now is workable and for the benefit of
both organizations. C. Furlong said the committee had some problems
with what the negotiating committee has done. C. Atkinson said he
was not asking that the lease be changed, his question was can we get
sued if something catastrophic happens if there's no turf on that
field and we have no money to pay for putting it back together.
Neier said that's the sort of thing that ought to be discussed, the
Parks Dept. and the Lakers should get together in March or September
and discuss the problems we have maintaining that field. He said
that language is subject to both parties being reasonable about the
situation we're facing. He said if the Lakers and the City are not
going to be reasonable in their demands, then they have to have an
agreement that spells out each and every duty that's going to be
undertaken by each side.
There was more discussion on Item 9, Fertilizer. Mike Baker said
that $600 for the fertilizer was an operational tool for him to use
as there is no money in his budget for maintenance of any of the
ballfields. He said he did not want to put the City in a situation
where we could be sued or be taken advantage of. It was decided that
Griffin Field would get priority use of the fertilizer, then the
multi -use field.
MOTION: C. Atkinson moved to strike language on Item 9 which reads
"but that its obligation is to provide a turf suitable for use as a
•quality baseball field and that materials needed in excess of those
provided by the Lakers shall be purchased by the City". C. Hopkins
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seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
• C. Furlong said he had a problem with the 20-year term of the lease
and would not support it. He said he would insist on a re -negotiation
at 5-year intervals. Johns said they need a long-term lease in order
to get a bank loan. He said if the Lakers weren't building the
grandstands and paving the parking lot they wouldn't have any problem
with a 5-year lease.
C. Hopkins said throughout the process he has come to believe more
and more that we don't need a lease, that better cooperation and
management could be achieved through a use agreement and for that
reason he would vote to take it on the floor but he would vote
against it. A discussion followed that regarding the City building
the grandstands and the taxpayers seeing more use available for the
field. C. Atkinson disagreed with C. Hopkins and agreed with C.
Furlong on the. 5-year re -negotiation.
The KGA lease re -negotiation clause was read by C. Furlong and discussed
for use in the baseball lease. Johns again brought up the financing
problem with a short-term lease. He said he thought the Lakers were
entitled to some consideration for what they're committing to do to
complete an incomplete project.
At this point C. Furlong asked if the lease should be presented to
the Council without recommendation or be sent back for re -negotiation.
• Johns and Anderson said they would like it presented to the Council.
MOTION: C. Atkinson moved that the Committee send the lease back for
further re -negotiations. C. Atkinson voted in favor and C. Furlong
and C. Hopkins against. The motion failed.
MOTION: C. Atkinson moved the Committee place this lease before the
Council with no recommendation. C. Hopkins seconded, with the assumption
of the changes that had been agreed to. The motion was voted upon
and passed unanimously. C. Furlong proposed that the lease be presented
at the next regular Council meeting on December 5th.
Airport Fees
C. Furlong presented Mike Strand's request for consideration for past
fees paid when it was under the Airport Association. Mike Strand has
asked that he be refunded the $3600 or in the interim apply that
payment to the current fees until that amount of money has been used
up. C. A. Neier discussed the research he did on the Airport Asso-
ciation's collection of fees, which was sporadic until the Association
ceased in 1986. According to his calculations Stockhill would owe
$13,200 and Strand Aviation would owe $12,000, going back to when the
fees were in effect. He said if the City was going to collect those
fees the Airport Association would have to assign to the City its
right to collect those fees.
There was a discussion on who had paid their fees. C. Furlong asked
• Ne.ier what he thought the chances were for collecting the past due
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fees, he said the chances were bad. He said we could win on paper
but not in the pocketbook.
Mike Strand said if the City was to go back and collect from other
users, they should collect from them all, not just Stockhill and
Strand. He said there were a lot of users who did not pay. Mike
withdrew his request for a refund of $3600, and requested that $1200
be credited towards the $50 per month, and he would continue to pay
the fuel taxes and the parking fees. He also suggested that Eagle
Aviation be made to pay $50 per month from the time they started up
to the end of 1987.
MOTION: C. Atkinson made a motion that the City Attorney drop his
efforts to collect FBO fees prior to January 1, 1988. Hopkins
seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
Mike Strand's request for a $1200 credit was then discussed. C. A.
Neier said he felt we should credit Mike Strand's account only with
$50 per month paid as of January 1, 1988 when the. City took over the
Airport.
Mike Strand said he felt he should be allowed to be credited with the
$1200. He said things have been bad out at the airport and he could
really use the money.
MOTION: C. Atkinson moved that the Committee recommend to the Council
to forgive Mike Strand's FBO payment of $50 a month for the future up
to $1200. C. Hopkins seconded but said he was concerned of the
legality of giving the credit. Neier said the Council had the
authority to do that. He said his chief concern was that we don't
get into a situation out there where we're not collecting enough to
maintain the airport. C. Furlong said he thought Mike Strand's
proposal was outrageous, he doesn't think we should perpetuate the
error. He said he will support the business as of January 1, 1988.
He opposes the motion before the committee and will oppose it on the
floor. C. Hopkins disagreed, he felt that we should right what was a
wrong for a long time and if there are other people out there that
have a concern about this action they could come before this Committee
as well.
The motion was voted upon, C. Atkinson and C. Hopkins voted in favor,
C. Furlong opposed. The motion will be recommended at the next
Council meeting on December 5.
C. Atkinson moved the meeting be. adjourned
Meeting adjourned at 7:02 P.M.
Shirley Hughes, Recording Secretary
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C. Hopkins seconded.