09-09-88 Parks Comm Minutes4
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• PARKS/PUBLIC LANDS/ANNEXATION/ZONING/AIRPORT
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 9, 1988
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT
OTHERS PRESENT:
NOEL FURLONG, CHAIRMAN
ROGER HOPKINS
JOHN GUNNERSON
JIM ATKINSON
CLARE HAFFERMAN, COUNCILWOMAN
MIKE BAKER, DIRECTOR OF PARKS
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Furlong at 4:15 p.m.
PARKS UPDATE: Mike Baker stated earlier this week a fire statement: to
the press of no open fires in Lawrence Park in cooperation with the
Forest Service was made. This was the only park affected for fire
protection as there is no irrigation there. Propane tanks are the
only type barbeques allowed in Lawrence Park. All the parks are
remaining open.
Mike Baker gave the pump update for Woodland Park. The pump, a 30
• horsepower motor, was shipped from Arkansas on August 29th. The wet
end of the pump is here and was shipped from Dallas the same day. They
pumped water over Labor Day weekend for 3 days, 24 hours a day into the
lagoon raising the lagoon 3 inches. He noted he borrowed the Fish,
Wildlife and Parks boom truck to pull the original pump -that is
a cost of approximately $300. that the City will riot have to pay.
Mike Baker said that Jim Atkinson was contacted by a school teacher who
would like to do a third grade fund-raiser project in Woodland Park.
They use Woodland Park and want to do something for the park. Last
year they sold popcorn raising $1,700. with no effort, and donated it
to the space shuttle. The school is looking at $2,000. to donate to the
park this year.. There are 26 third grade classes in the valley, and .in
total, there will be about 650 children on this effort. This will
occur in October and he felt it was great they thought of the park in
this way.
LEGION BASEBALL LEASE REVIEW:
Chairman Furlong stated they had a draft of the lease agreement
8-16-88 and it was scheduled to be presented to the council on 9-6-88.
The draft lease was withdrawn at the next committee meeting for further
discussion with Dan Johns and the committee. Chairman Furlong's
proposal was that they do essentially as they did before, go through
the lease paragraph by paragraph and discuss it.
• LEASE:
FIRST FOUR PARAGRAPHS - No problems discussed.
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PARAGRAPH 5:
Dan Johns said the Lakers are not in favor of a 5 year lease; they are
in favor of a 20 year. lease. The additional years are necessary because
of the funds they will have to acquire and expend in order to complete
development of the existing field and the new field. To present a
lease to a bank for a loan, more than 5 years are needed. He said the
lease will be reviewed twice a year by the City to see how they are
performing, and there is also the determination language in the lease
if the city does not feel the Lakers are living up to it.
Sub -leasing and fees of the field by the Lakers was discussed between
Clare Hafferman and Dan Johns. The 1% in paragraph 6 of the lease was
objected to by the committee, but was noted it will be taken up at the
council meeting.
Mr. Mike Strand of Strand Aviation stated he had an appointment and
would .like to be excused from the agenda and will be at the next
meeting of the committee, and will be first on the agenda.
ITEM NO.1-USE,COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS, SIGNS: No problems discussed.
ITEM NO.2-MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS:
• Dan Johns asked that the city provide water for the irrigation -add this
to a) and delete it from ITEM NO.5. He said this is double metering
for the concession stand and restrooms. Irrigation is on a separate
meter. They would pay for the water on the concession stand and
restrooms. This is water that will be going into the sewage treatment
plant. The rest will be used for maintaining grass and developing the
second field. The pipes and wells are in.
Roger Hopkins said the city is considering a policy for charging the
various parks around the city for water use. This is a lease and would
seem proper to be consistent with this new policy -that the Lakers pay
for the use of this water.
Dan Johns said there is no charge to his knowledge for irrigating other
public parks in the city. The Lakers are paying for the construction
and improvement of a city park and a new ball field. The Lakers felt
in this case the water should be provided.
Mike Baker stated this is a specific case and no other parks are being
leased to any other groups. The golf course has their own wells and
pay for their own irrigation. They do not pay the city for this water.
The Parks Department has not been charged for their water use yet, but
in the next year or so, there will be meters placed where the parks
department utilizes city water. The swimming pool and Griffin Field
are the areas the Parks Department is responsible to the Water
• Department at present. If the Lakers are required to pay for the
water, on a year when business is not so good, they may decide to cut
on the watering. However, it may not destroy the turf, but it may
deteriorate the turf. He has discussed the water bill with Dan Johns.
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Chairman Furlong wanted it noted they were against this suggestion of
the city providing water. He also wanted it noted for the record, Item
b) will be put on that long list of things that the city never has
enough money to do. Improvements may not be soon, as the council has
already spent more money there than the council has authorized.
ITEM NO.3-PRIMARY USE:
Chairman Furlong and Roger Hopkins were concerned with the last
sentence in the paragraph whereby the Lakers keep all fees.
ITEM NO.4-ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT: No problems discussed.
ITEM NO.5-UTILITIES: Dan Johns restated deleting water used for
irrigation purposes.
ITEM NO.6-PERSONAL PROPERTY:
Dan Johns stated whatever they construct is the property of. the Lakers,
whether or not it will ever be removable if the lease were terminated.
If the lease is terminated they would like to be compensated for it.
ITEM NO.7-INSURANCE:
• Dan Johns said the Lakers would most probably maintain year-round
insurance on their improvements.
ITEM NO.8-DEFAULT AND TERMINATION: No problems discussed.
Chairman Furlong said this lease will be presented to the Council in
motion form, and will notify Dan Johns of this final lease before it
goes to the council or give him a final draft of it before the council
meeting. He also noted he will notify Dan Johns of the meeting which
will put this into motion form before it goes to the council if he
wishes to attend.
Dan Johns said he will wait for the notification of the next committee
meeting, and noted this was the 7th meeting since he joined the Laker
Board in January, and there were meetings before that. He would like to
see it go before the council soon as they will change it also.
The meeting was adjourned by Chairman Furlong at 5:19 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Na cyegg
Recording S c etary
Noel Furlong
Chairman
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