EmailsJim Hansz
From: Bill Buxton [bbuxton@m-m.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:37 PM
To: charball@kalispell.com
Cc: jhansz@kalispell.com
Subject: Fwd: Final LCA
Exhibit A.doc Exhibit B.xls (14 AR-BC320-200 MVP Exhibit C.doc
(19 KB) KB) 124143903.pdf mers Agreement. (44 KB)
Charlie,
Final LCA for Andy Miller is attached for your review per Jim Hansz's request.
Please call with questions.
Best Regards
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Civil Engineering Department Manager
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbuxton@m-m.net
>>> Bill Buxton 1/25/2008 9:44 am >>>
Andy,
Please call me when you get this.
Thanks
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Civil Engineering Department Manager
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbuxton@m-m.net
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Jim Hansz
From: Bill Buxton [bbuxton@m-m.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:34 PM
To: charball@kalispell.com
Cc: andy@globalemergingtechnologies.com; fcastles@kalispell.com; jhansz@kalispell.com
Subject: Andy Miller late comers agreement questions
Charlie
Andy had some comments/concerns with the LCA that I need you to address since they are
more legal in nature and not technical. I have attached the most current agreement for
your information.
1. Paragraph F.3 states "Developer warrants that it is the owner in title absolute of the
Extensions, that it has neither permitted nor suffered any person or other entity to tap
onto, connect to or use the Extensions for the purpose of receiving service from the
connection prior to the date of this Agreement." Since the City has already allowed
several connections how does this affect Andy?
2. Paragraph F.8 states "The City agrees not to allow any tapping into, connecting to or
using of the Extensions for the purpose of receiving service from the connection without
the owners of properties to be benefited from said tapping or connecting having first paid
to the City the Assessment Fees and such other charges as set forth in Sections 4 and 5
above." I think that Andy is concerned about getting paid for these connections. I told
him that my interpretation of this is that after the agreement is executed the city will
not allow connections without payment and that anybody that has connected previously will
have to pay. However, he wants to hear it from the City.
3. Paragraph F.7 is reserved. I'm wondering if you could add language here that states
that anyone connected prior to the finalization of this agreement will have to pay. This
would address the concerns discussed previously. Just a thought.
4. Paragraph F.9 states "The City shall pay to Developer the sums agreed by it to be
collected pursuant to the provisions of this Agreement within sixty (60) days after
receipt thereof..." Andy would like this to be 30 days.
Can you call Andy directly at 406-270-0985 and talk with him about this changes?
Thanks
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Civil Engineering Department Manager
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbuxton@m-m.net
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Jim Hansz
From: Bill Buxton [bbuxton@m-m.net]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:31 AM
To: Jim Hansz
Subject: Re: OSS extension agreement
Jim,
I submitted the LCA to Andy and Frank some time ago for the City to work out the details
for final signatures. Frank called me Friday with some questions and I returned his call
today. We are scheduled to meet at 4:00 p.m. this afternoon.
Best Regards
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Civil Engineering Department Manager
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbuxton@m-m.net
>>> "Jim Hansz" <jhansz@kalispell.com> 1/11/2008 8:40 am >>>
Bill:
Andy Miller called asking about the agreement and when they could expect to begin
recovering costs?
Please let me know the status of this, whether we owe you anything, and when we can expect
to pt this to bed. I would like to get this done ASAP and so would Andy.
Jim Hansz
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Jim Hansz
From: Bill Buxton [bbuxton@m-m.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:11 PM
To: charball@kalispell.com; fcastles@kalispell.com; jhansz@kalispell.com;
andy@ospreymedia.us
Subject: US 93 Utilities Latecomers Agreement
AR-BC32O_200
205_13O224.pdf
Andy, Jim, Frank and Charlie:
Please find attached the final late comers agreement for your review. I don't seem to
have Jim Patrick's e-mail so I would appreciate it if someone could forward this to him
for me.
Best Regards
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Civil Engineering Department Manager
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbuxton@m-m.net
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Jim ansz
From: Bill Buxton [bbuxton@m-m.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:26 AM
To: jhansz@kalispell.com
Cc: fcasties@kalispell.com; Tony Feilzer; Terry Richmond
Subject: Re: Latecomer agreement for OSS utility extensions
Jim,
We will have the draft LCA to you later this afternoon or early tomorrow. I apologize for the delay ... I had hoped to
get it to you sooner. The delay is mostly associated with dealing with some differences between OSS and West View
Estates in the LCA, but yet trying to keep the agreement "standard". Let me give you some examples.
1. In the West View Estates LCA, we recognized that it did not make sense for the developer to pay himself for the
EDUs associated with his development, so we subtracted the EDUs from West View Estates from the total that the
water and sewer main could theoretically provide. As a result if the total EDUs that could be served were 2,000
and Mark was using 127 for West View, Mark would only be able to recover abut 94% of the cost (1873/2000)
because the other 6% is being used by his development. Make sense? In the cast of WVE, we knew exactly what
Mark was going to build ... 127 single family homes. For OSS, however, we have no idea what is going on or how
much water and sewer will be used or generated. For this reason the developer (or maybe the future owners of the
lots) may have to pay for the late comer fees in lieu of waiving them for this subdivision. This is how the LCA is being
created for this project.
2. Because the minimum fire flow for WVE is 1,000 gpm and that everyone who connects to the water main serving
this development will benefit from this fire flow, we considered this based fire flow to be "free" and subtracted it from
the capacity of the water main before determining the number of EDUs that can be served. We have been struggling
with this a bit, but ultimately decided that since 1,500 was the minimum commercial flow, this is the amount that
everyone would get for "free".
Anyway, these are the types of differences we have been trying to work through and come up with what we feel is a
good recommendation. There are differences between this agreement and the LCA for WVE, but maybe we need to
have two basic agreements, one for residential where the scope of the development is more defined and one for
commercial with the scope is less defined. Once you and others have reviewed the draft we will need to discuss.
Merry Christmas
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbuxton@m-m.net
>>> "Jim Hansz" <jhansz@kalispell.com> 12/21/2005 10:33:56 AM >>>
Bill:
I had a message from Andy Miller wanting information about the latecomer fees for the utility extensions. Have you
7/25/2008
had a chance to draft an agreement around the format used for Owl Corp? I think Andy is interested in some numbers
to use in his finance discussions with the bank. We will need the calculation of capacity in residential units and amount
used by OSS in order to identify the remaining capacity. Also need some preliminary costs figures.
Let me know status of this.
Thanks,
Jim H
7/25/2008
,MIN
From: Bill Buxton [bbuxton@m-m.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:26 AM
To: jhansz@kalispell.com; Terry Richmond
Cc: charball@kalispell.com; fcastles@kalispell.com; jpatrick@kalispell.com
Subject: Re: US 93 Utilities Developer Extension Agreement
Jim,
We will begin the LCA right away.
Have not talked with Andy Miller recently regarding this issue so we don't know the status. Will follow up with him
today.
Bill
William A. Buxton, P.E.
Morrison-Maierle, Inc.
1228 Whitefish Stage Road
PO Box 8057
Kalispell, Montana 59901
Phone: 406-752-2216
Fax: 406-752-2391
bbux'LOn@m-m.net
>>> "Jim Hansz" <jhansz@kalispell.com> 11/22/2005 10:40:36 AM >>>
Bill/Terry:
I spoke with Jim Patrick this morning and he asked that we begin work to assemble the developer extension
agreement for the US 93 utility extensions to Old School Station ASAP. There are several folks who want to hook on
to the new sewer/water when built and we need to have the agreement in place for Andy and Paul to get their
reimbursements. Would you please draft up an agreement using a template off the one you did for Mark Owens? I
think this is the best model to use because it affords better protection for the City, the developers and also for the folks
coming in later to hook on.
Please let me know when you have something put together.
Also, what is the status of the Stokes easement?
Thanks,
Jim H.
7/25/2008
From: Frank Castles [fcastles@kalispell.com]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:17 AM
To: 'Jim Hansz'; 'Paul Burnham'
Subject: US 93 South Water and Sewer Latecomers Agreement
Bill Buxton will be here at 4:00pm today to discuss finalizing the subject agreement.
Frank Castles, P.E.
Deputy Public Works Director/Assistant City Engineer
Phone:406-758-7724
7/25/2008
From: Jim Hansz Uhansz@kalispell.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:34 AM
To: Bill Buxton
Cc: fcastles@kalispell.com
Subject: Latecomer agreement for OSS utility extensions
I had a message from Andy Miller wanting information about the latecomer fees for the utility extensions. Have you had
a chance to draft an agreement around the format used for Owl Corp? I think Andy is interested in some numbers to
use in his finance discussions with the bank. We will need the calculation of capacity in residential units and amount
used by OSS in order to identify the remaining capacity. Also need some preliminary costs figures.
Let me know status of this.
Thanks,
IMM
7/25/2008
From: Jim Hansz Ohansz@kalispell.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Bill Buxton; trichmond@m-m.net
Cc: Charles Harball (charball@kalispell.com); fcasties@kalispell.com; James H. Patrick
apatrick@kalispell.com)
Subject: US 93 Utilities Developer Extension Agreement
I spoke with Jim Patrick this morning and he asked that we begin work to assemble the developer extension agreement
for the US 93 utility extensions to Old School Station ASAP. There are several folks who want to hook on to the new
sewer/water when built and we need to have the agreement in place for Andy and Paul to get their reimbursements.
Would you please draft up an agreement using a template off the one you did for Mark Owens? I think this is the best
model to use because it affords better protection for the City, the developers and also for the folks coming in later to
hook on.
Please let me know when you have something put together.
Also, what is the status of the Stokes easement?
Thanks,
Jim H.
7/25/2008
From: Terry Richmond [trichmond@m-m.net]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:29 PM
To: Jim Hansz
Subject: Re: Andy Miller and OSS Extension agreement
Jim,
Thanks for the note. Bill B. has been working on the extension agreement and we will be meeting with Andy on
Wednesday to discuss it and other US 93 issues. Hopefully we can get things finalized soon and the agreement to
you.
Hope you had a good day.
/TWR
>>> "Jim Hansz" <jhansz@kalispell.com> 5/21/2007 11:42 AM >>>
Terry:
I meant to mention this some time ago...
Andy stopped by to ask about the extension agreement for OSS ... schedule, drafting it, etc. He is anxious to get the
reimbursements flowing soon. I advised him to contact you and let you know he'd like you to draft it ASAP after the
costs are known. Bill Buxton drafted the Mark Owens agreement and this is the format we will follow for the OSS
agreement.
Did Andy call you? If not, maybe a call would be wise to jog him.
7/25/2008