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12-12-85 Street & Alley Comm Minutes• December 12, 1985 STREET AND ALLEY COMMITTEE 4:00 P.M. Chairman Palmer and Councilmen Nystul and Saverud present. Mayor elect Kennedy, DPW Hammer, Surveyor Zavodny, Don Hellman and Carol Warness from the Police Department, Tom Heinecke, Terry Powell, Ed Trippet, Bob Nieboer, and Roger Hopkins of the Daily Interlake also in attendance. CENTER STREET LIGHT POLES - The street lights which were ordered for Center Street by the sub -contractor Tom Heinecke are different from those in the rest of the City. Tom presented his reasoning for ordering those particular lights, which included superior lighting capabilities which in turn caused the bases and the space between the bases to be different than for the type of lights elsewhere in the City. DPW Hammer preferred matching the lights in the City and objected to the maintenance required for the painted poles. Tom indicated that he had been asked to cut down on the number of poles (originally 22) and chose to go with superior lighting and fewer poles. C. Nystul said he had asked for specifications on lighting before the bid was let and got nothing. DPW Hammer reminded the Committee that this had been a rush job on the bidding because of pressure from the mall. The Committee felt that the City was "stuck with" the poles for Center Street but that it needed to look closely at other surrounding areas and strive for uniformity. Tom Heinecke will come to the Council meeting and advise the Council that an additional $1200 will be needed to paint the light poles for Center Street. SNOW REMOVAL TICKETS - Doran Michaels,representing FVCC students,stated that the street had been plowed, the students parked, and then they were ticketed. Carol Warness indicated that Daylight Donuts had done some plowing on the street when they plowed their lot, the students parked, and then the City came along and plowed. C. Palmer asked for suggested solutions and not just problems and Doran said a group was working on that and would share the suggestions with the Council when they are completed. PLOWING SNOW INTO STREETS FROM PARKING LOTS - Ed Trippet handed out the attached sheet and explained it to the Committee. He then asked, "What do I get for my taxes?" The parking lot areas use no garbage removal, no fire, no sewer, etc. In a sense, he explained, there is a penalty for providing off-street parking if there is an extra charge for snow removal. Wayne Saverud doesn't have the problem because he provides no off-street parking. He pointed out that an ordinance states that the adjacent owner must shovel off the City -owned sidewalks. He feels that there is a good deal going between the City and businessmen now, why upset things? If the City chooses to charge for snow removal, Ed would feel compelled to ask the City to pay the $175.00 he paid out for having snow removed which the City, according to the lease, is supposed to have removed. The Committee felt that the Parking Commission needs to deal with snow removal and asked that a copy of the review and proposals provided to this Committee by DPW Hammer be shared with the Commission members and a joint meeting be set up. STREET AND ALLEY COMMITTEE • December 12, 1985 Page 2 SNOW REMOVAL CONTINUED KINSHELLA AVENUE AND HUSKY STREET - The gateway West Mall has requested priority plowing like the downtown business area. The Committee felt that they would cooperate as soon as the problems with those streets were straight- ened out (parking, etc). The Committee also asked DPW Hammer to provide a priority list for plowing for the whole City. HUMAN RESOURCES BUILDING - Tom Wiggins requested plowing and sanding. DPW HAmmer had told him the City could provide a pile of sand for him to spread as needed. The Committee agreed. TICKETS - Bob Nieboer said he came not representing the High School but as a parent concerned about the situation. He pointed out that there is no other place for the students to park. It was his understanding that the City had a plicy to plow before school time. He listed reasons for so many students needing parking places. Don Hellman responded that there had been no change in the policy, but also explained that they gave tickets all over town whenever a vehicle was bermed in by the plow. DPW Hammer said he would make every effort to see that the area was plowed early. 152 tickets were given over a 3-day period ($10 each). Don Hellman said that it was normal to give alot of tickets early in the season as reminders. DPW Hammer pointed out that the ordinance states that the City Engineer shall give advice to the Police Chief on snow removal, and he recommended warning tickets or none at all. A ticket after the fact doesn't do much to get cars moved. Carol Warness added that she has complaints from residents on the off streets because plowing can't be cone because of cars in the way. DPW Hammer pointed out that according to the ordinance it is illegal to park even after the plowing. He expressed the opinion that the Street Department could be more efficient and also that it would be better to bring the crew in earlier (12 - 1 A.M.) so there would be plenty of time to cover the downtown area and around the high school as well. The earlier time could cause some problems with the employees and union however. C. Nystul said that the need for snow routes is still on the pending list. A sequence (based on average snowfall and time required to remove) is needed so accurate planning can be done for arterials and main routes. There was more discussion concerning equipment and plowing time. Surveyor Zavodny is to bring snow route material gathered about a year ago to the Committee. DPW Hammer will have second report on snow removal before the next meeting. In additional discussion on ticketing a compromise was suggested - if it's not plowed, don't park. Carol Warness said she put notices on the doors of the High School and warned 11 students not to park. All 11 parked anyway and got tickets. She ticketed only when bermed in. In this particular instance the grader operator took it upon himself after 8:00 A.M. DPW Hammer pointed out again that ordinance says no parking that day at all. He is • to follow up with the High School administration concerning better use of the parking lot and notification of the students. STREET AND ALLEY COMMITTEE • December 12, 1985 Page 3 DECORATIVE STREET LIGHTS - DPW Hammer reported that Antique Street Lamps will be using a local Kalispell trucker if they can work out the timing. They plan to ship the 18th. There was a question about one of the globes on the sample being a different color. This was shipped in a hurry and all globes will be uniform. IMPLEMENTATION OF AUTOMATED GARBAGE SYSTEM ON EAST SIDE - Committee is waiting on the City Clerk's report on funds. RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT WITH WHITEFISH ON SIDE -ARM LOADER - Committee asked DPW Hammer to draft a letter of understanding until an agreement could be made. After the meeting C. Palmer drafted a cover letter and an agreement to be presented to Attorney Neier for approval before being sent to Whitefish. TRAFFIC SIGNAL ARROW TEMPLATES FROM TAX INCREMENT - DPW Hammer explained that the cost of arrow templates is approximately $695. If the City hired a contractor to paint the arrows on Center Street it would cost more. He requested permission to purchase the templates and have the City sign and signal crew do the work. This would also give the City a set of templates which would last for years. The Committee agreed to this arrangement. The Committee felt that a thank you letter should be drafted to the • Highway Department for their help in striping Center Street. DPW Hammer will draft the letter for the Mayor to sign. ADVERTISING FOR STREET SUPERINTENDENT - DPW Hammer is working on a job description which will be presented to the Committee. They felt that salary should depend on the job description and experience, but asked that a range be provided for their consideration. This should be done no later than the end of December if someone is to be on hand by the first of February to learn the ropes before Bill Clements retires. ajg 0 VACANT (PARKING LOTS) OWNED BY ED TRIPPET • ' LOT 13 OF BLOCK I6 (CORNER OF MAIN AND FIFTH LOTS 18 19 NORTH OF KAL TYPEWRITER LOTS 3,4,5,6,7,8, NORTH OF DEVONSHIRE MOTEL LOTS 22, 23,24 NORTH OF JOHNSON FUNERAL TOTAL TAXES TOTAL SQ FEET 35,000 . AREA LEASED TO CITY OF KALISPELL 21,000, i TAKES ANNUAL 800.00 1332.95 4,100-00 1,800.00 8032.95 THESE AREAS ARE ALL PLOWED BY MYSELF AND THE SNOW IS STORED AND LATER HAULED FROM THES AREAS (EXCEPT THE 25x 140 SOT 13 AT THE CORNER OF 5TH AND MAIN) 3,500 SQ FEET) MY SNOW REMOVAL EXPENSE FOR THE CITY LEASED LOTS 21,000. WAS $175. LAST YEAR MY SNOW PLOWING EXPENSE FOR LAST YEAR WAS APROX $1,000, 25 TIMES X $50, OR TWO HOURS.)