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Good evening and I'm
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Good evening and I'm sorry for the late text. My name is John McDonnell and I am the
resident that has been speaking highly against these ALPR technologies systems that
are going to be in place based upon your upcoming vote on the budget below in the
next text, I will attach multiple laws both Montana and federal that I think in my
opinion will be broken if these technologies advance any further, you also may or
may not know, but I have distributed a questionnaire for all of the council members
as well as the city chief that I am expecting thoughtful written answers in the space
provided below each question and I expect them to be returned to me on Monday
night before the meeting. I will also attach a multitude of different both federal and
lower court cases that have upheld DALPR/Private violation/4th amendment Wright
violation for your review. I look forward to your dedicated and engaging response in
this upcoming next city council meeting on Monday night. Any council member who
refuses or is unwilling to provide answers to my written questions or do some basic
research on these laws and these court cases will face the unprecedented public
shaming that they deserve. Thank you and have a good night and I hope you can do
better. I'm sorry for the late text. Please spread the word.
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Federal Level (Pri-
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Federal Level (Primarily Fourth Amendment)
• U.S. Constitution, Fourth Amendment: Protects
against unreasonable searches and seizures. ALPR
systems raise issues when they enable long-term,
warrantless tracking of vehicle movements
(creating a "mosaic" of public movements),
especially if data is aggregated, retained, or
queried without probable cause or a warrant.
Single "plain view" captures of license plates on
public roads are generally not considered
searches, but comprehensive historical databases
or pervasive surveillance may trigger protections.
No comprehensive federal statute strictly
regulates ALPR use nationwide; oversight is
largely constitutional and agency -specific (e.g.,
data retention policies).
State Level (Montana Example, as Relevant to
Kalispell) Montana has specific statutes on ALPR:
• Mont. Code Ann. § 46-5-117 to § 46-5-118:
Governs law enforcement use of ALPR. Requires
written policies, limits data retention (generally 1
year unless preserved for investigation), restricts
sharing/sale of data, and mandates destruction of
non -investigative data. Bulk collection without
ties to active investigations may violate these
limits or related privacy provisions.
• Broader Montana constitutional privacy
protections (Mont. Const. Art. II, § 10) may offer
stronger safeguards than the federal Fourth
Amendment in some interpretations.
Other states have varying retention limits (e.g.,
30-180 days), public records access rules, or
bans/restrictions on private/third-party data
sharing. Deployment could test compliance with
state public records acts or data minimization
requirements.
Note: Legality often depends on specifics—e.g.,
fixed vs. mobile cameras, data retention duration,
query practices, and whether it creates
comprehensive location histories. Courts distinguish short-term/plain-view use (generally upheld) from
long-term surveillance (more vulnerable).
Key U.S. Supreme Court Cases (Analogous, Not Direct ALPR Rulings) No U.S. Supreme Court case has
directly ruled on ALPR technology. Relevant precedents often cited:
• Carpenter v. United States, 585 U.S. 296 (2018): Warrant required for historical cell -site location
information (CSLI) due to its revealing nature and reasonable expectation of privacy in aggregated
movements. Frequently invoked for ALPR "mosaic theory" arguments (long-term tracking invades
privacy).
• United States v. Jones, 565 U.S. 400 (2012): GIPS tracking on a vehicle constitutes a search (trespass
theory); concurrences by Alito and Sotomayor highlight privacy concerns with prolonged surveillance.
• Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967): Established "reasonable expectation of privacy" test; what
is knowingly exposed to the public (e.g., license plates in plain view) generally lacks protection.
• Kansas v. Glover, 589 U.S. 747 (2020): Reasonable suspicion for a stop can arise from license plate
database info (e.g., revoked license), but does not directly address ALPR databases.
Lower courts often distinguish ALPR from Carpenter -level intrusion due to less comprehensive/intimate
data than cell phones.
Notable Lower Court Cases (Supporting Limits or Challenges to ALPR) Cases supporting restrictions or
finding potential violations (often limited or ongoing):
• Commonwealth v. McCarthy, 484 Mass. 493 (Mass. 2020): Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court held
limited ALPR use (e.g., few cameras) did not violate rights, but explicitly warned that "with enough
cameras in enough locations;' historical ALPR data would constitute a search requiring a warrant under
state/federal constitutions. Strong support for challenging pervasive systems.
• Schmidt v. City of Norfolk (E.D. Va., 2026; appealed to 4th Cir.): Challenge to citywide Flock Safety ALPR
network (hundreds of captures per vehicle). District court upheld use, but appeal tests Fourth
Amendment claims of warrantless mass surveillance. Institute for Justice case highlighting privacy
concerns.
• United States v. Yang, 958 F.3d 851 (9th Cir. 2020): Court avoided full merits but acknowledged
massive ALPR data scale; standing limited the challenge. Amicus briefs from EFF/ACLU pushed Carpenter
application.
• Other federal district court cases and state rulings have cautioned that sustained tracking or highly
comprehensive ALPR databases could cross into unconstitutional territory, especially when combined
with other tools.
Many other federal trial and state courts have upheld specific ALPR uses to date (e.g., short-term or
investigative queries), but with caveats about future pervasive deployment. Challenges continue in
places like San Jose, CA, and Virginia.
I recommend you all inform yourself and do some background research and basic
research upon the cases in laws that I've just provided you have the weekend to do
some review and I expect thoughtful detailed responses from each of you on Monday
night. Because if you are not opposed to these cameras in full, then you are breaking
the law. Again, I'm sorry for the late text however I do pay my taxes so I am allowed to
do this and I hope you guys understand and I look forward to your responses on
Monday night, both written and verbal because I will have more questions for all of
you both written and verbal at the end of the meeting.