05-11-10KALISPELL CITY PLANNING BOARD & ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
MAY 11, 2010
CALL TO ORDER AND
The regular meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board and
ROLL CALL
Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. Board
members present were: Bryan Schutt, John Hinchey, Rick Hull,
C.M. (Butch) Clark, Chad Graham, Richard Griffin and Troy
Mendius. Sean Conrad, P.J. Sorensen, and Tom Jentz represented
the Kalispell Planning Department. There were approximately
people in the audience.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Hinchey moved and Clark seconded a motion to approve the
minutes of the March 9, 2010 meeting of the Kalispell City
Planning Board and Zoning Commission.
ROLL CALL
The motion passed unanimously on a roll call vote.
PUBLIC COMMENT
No one wished to speak.
WILLOW CREEK AMENDED
A request by Trigon, Inc. to revise the approved subdivision,
PLANNED UNIT
Planned Unit Development (PUD) and modify several conditions
DEVELOPMENT AND
of approval for the Willow Creek subdivision. The revised project
PRELIMINARY PLAT
proposal includes a total of 471 lots, 397 single family residential
lots and 74 townhouse lots. The lots range in size from a 2,400
square foot townhouse lot to approximately 17,600 square foot
single family residential lot. The proposed revisions would create
a primarily single family residential subdivision as opposed to the
mix of residential uses their previous project included. In addition
to modifying the housing type and lot design the developer would
like the city and Montana Department of Transportation to review
an updated traffic impact study which takes into account the future
completion of the alternate truck route. The completion of the
alternate truck route may reduce the amount of off -site street
improvements the current Willow Creek conditions of approval
require the developer to complete. The revised project also
removes the main nortb/south street through the subdivision and
realigns two access points proposed on Foys Lake Road.
The Willow Creek subdivision is zoned R-3 (Urban Single Family
Residential) with a PUD overlay zoning district and is located on
the north side of Foys Lake Road generally between Valley View
Drive and Learn Lane. The subdivision's eastern boundary is
located along the alternate truck route right-of-way for Highway
93. From its eastern boundary the subdivision site continues west
just under V2 mile along Foys Lake Road and ending at the eastern
boundary of the Stoneridge subdivision. Ashley Creek makes up
the northern boundary of the project site. The subdivision site
encompasses approximately 140 acres.
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Board Member Hull recused himself from the discussion due to a
conflict of interest.
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Sean Conrad representing the Kalispell Planning Department
reviewed staff report KPUD-10-01 & KPP-10-01.
Conrad reviewed the vicinity map for the Amended Willow Creek
PUD and Preliminary Plat.
In 2007 this project was annexed into the city and given an R-3
zoning with a Planned Unit Development (PUD) overlay. The 2007
approved site plan included 531 residential units, which included 8-
16 Alex apartment units, 361 residential lots, 42 townhouse lots,
open space park area along Ashley Creek with a 200 foot setback
from the creek, landscaping features along Foys Lake Road, 2 parks
interior to the project site and a bike/pedestrian path and parks. The
major proposed amendments to the PUD include the realignment of
the 2 access streets onto Foys Lake Road which amended the
approved direct route through the subdivision which would have
served as a north/south collector street; changes to parks and open
space; the elimination of condominium units and the net reduction of
60 units overall; and townhouse development around the parkland.
Although this development proposal drops the residential number of
lots by 60, staff felt the changes warranted holding another public
hearing before the Kalispell City Planning Board and review by the
Kalispell City Council.
Conrad reviewed the following concerns with the PUD site design:
• Landscaping and final grading along Foys Lake Road;
• Future housing on steep lots; and
• Depth of fill material in certain areas of the project site.
Conrad said he wanted to touch on the Rails to Trails crossing
issues. As a requirement of the PUD plan the developer is required
to provide an access street from the subdivision north to Highway 2.
In order to do that he is going to have to cross the current Meridian
bike path. There are 3 government entities involved in the trail
discussion, the City of Kalispell, Flathead County who has the
easement and the Montana Department of Transportation. The
agencies met to discuss the trail crossing and decided an at -grade
crossing with traffic calming and signage including a manually
activated crossing light would be required. Conrad added this
condition reflects the minimum standards for such a crossing based
on the county's input on standards required as part of the CTEP
program that paid for the trail.
At the April planning board work session several of the planning
board members heard from the Rails to Trails Committee and
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requested the developer meet with the committee to help resolve the
trail crossing issues. Conrad reported that yesterday the developer
met with the committee along with city and county staff members
and issues were brought up on both sides. However, Conrad added
there was no final resolution on the type of crossing that should be
required. Conrad said the staff report does indicate the Rails to Trails
Committee fully supports a separated crossing with a bridge but that
was not agreed to by the developer.
Conrad introduced Paul Burnham and Rebekah Hahn, city engineers
who are in attendance to help answer any questions the board may
have.
BOARD QUESTIONS Griffin asked if the 12 foot fill was approved in the existing PUD
and Conrad said there was going to be cut and fill but he didn't
know the depth.
Griffin said as he read the conditions there is a retaining wall
maximum height of 3 feet with 4 feet of vegetation and another 3
feet of wall, etc., and he noted on the hillside where the road has
been cut it will take a number of the 3 foot walls. Griffin asked if
there were any drawings that would show what that would look like
in that area. Conrad responded the cuts were interior to the
subdivision and not the area where the road was cut. Conrad said
based on the grading plan there will be some significant topography
and the developer is required to meet the 3 foot retaining walls but
the slopes are steep and it will require, in his opinion, a significant
redesign in order to meet that condition. Griffin said he is trying to
draw a comparison between what has been approved and what the
proposed amendments to this project are now and he asked what
percentage of the project is being changed. Conrad said
approximately 20% and he described those areas of change.
APPLICANT/TECHNICAL Hubert Turner, President of Trigon, Inc., the developer of Willow
SUPPORT Creek addressed Mr. Griffin's question on retaining walls and said
the grade where the road has been cut is very misleading and it will
be graded back to a 10 to 15% slope and then level out to a flat spot
so it will not be a retaining wall issue. Turner agreed that roughly
20% of the subdivision has changed.
Turner said as far as the cut and fill it was not included in the
previous submittal because they are at a much higher design level
now than they were when the previous proposal was submitted.
When it was approved in December of 2007 there was still a year to
18 months of engineering work to do before they could break
ground. They are now about 2 weeks away from resubmitting
engineering plans to the city.
Turner said the primary reason for the fill is to facilitate the
wastewater flow out of the site to the north and there needs to be a
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significant amount of fill added to the area for the system to work.
That fill project is on -going and is under the supervision of 2
engineering firms to ensure that compaction is being achieved and
settling won't occur in the future. He said he has a high level of
confidence in the fill compaction and he would build his house on
the fill areas.
Turner continued regarding the buffering along Foys Lake Road,
they have increased the setbacks significantly in the new plan in
order to eliminate the need for any retaining walls. When they did
that they didn't anticipate the size of the stormwater retention
facilities that would be necessary in order to make this project work
so they are currently developing a redesign to better facilitate those
slopes. They were informed last week that slopes greater than 30%
will not be allowed in part of the subdivision and they are working
hard to eliminate the need for retaining walls.
Turner said when the engineering plans were submitted to the city
for the eastern access road the city indicated the location was not
acceptable and that the location would have to be moved
approximately 300 feet to the west. The topography of that location
didn't work so they elected to move it 900 feet west of the original
location. Because of its close proximity to the western access
proposed that access was also moved further to the west. Turner
continued because of the bypass coming on line it negated the
necessity for a through roadway as originally designed but would
still allow for traffic to flow from Foys Lake Road through the
subdivision eventually to Highway 2.
The second major problem that was discovered in the engineering
phase was along the eastern boundary of the subdivision they had
allowed for a 60 buffer between the subdivision and the bypass to
construct noise mitigation berms. However they were informed that
there was not enough room and the buffer had to be increased to 110
feet. The lots were reconfigured to accommodate these 2 major
changes.
Turner said regarding the streetibike path crossing they are
proposing a regrading of the bike path to create an at -grade crossing.
They had not anticipated traffic calming or other recommendations
however they do not have any problem with providing the crossing
as described in the conditions. They feel the crossing will be safe
and he stated it will exceed the minimum standards. The only
question they have is who would pay for the electricity for the
lighting facility at the crossing; he added he would assume it would
be paid by the city or county.
Turner asked for the ability to respond to any issues brought up
during the public hearing.
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Hinchey questioned the calculations of slope on lots 439, 440, & 441
which he estimates at a 30 foot rise. Turner said his instructions to
the engineer were that no lot in that area should be greater than 15%
and if Hinchey's calculations are right that will be corrected.
Turner said as far as steep lots to his knowledge there is one lot that
exceeds a 20% grade and the only one that exceeds 15%.
Schutt asked what Turner meant about being a few weeks from final
engineering and Turner said they had submitted a set of engineering
plans to the city and have received the city's comments and it will
take another few weeks to address those comments.
PUBLIC HEARING Richard Siderius, President of Rails to Trails stated he resides at 395
Auction Road. Siderius provided a brief history of Rails to Trails
and this trail in particular to the board. It took 26 years to build the
first 2 miles of this trail. It is a very popular trail and is used by old
and young alike. Because of the significant use of this trial the Rails
to Trails organization opposes a city street crossing the trail with an
at -grade crossing. The biggest concern is safety and a direct crossing
will lower the level of service for both the city street and the trail
users. Their suggestion is that the bike trail go over the proposed
street and a bridge be installed that will not only be safe but will also
serve as a very nice entrance into this development.
Al Sorensen, 76 Scarborough, stated he agrees with Mr. Siderius.
The Rails to Trails path system is a park and after that park is
established a developer is proposing to come in and build a road
across it. If a developer was going to put a road through Woodland
Park it would not be allowed even if the minimum safety
requirements were expected to be met. Even though this trail
doesn't compare to Woodland Park it is a park and was developed
before this subdivision. His concern is not at day one when
development begins but in the future when the volume of traffic will
increase. There have been a number of discussions and everyone
feels, some strongly, that the bridge is the preferred alternative.
Steve Anderson, 150 Lakeshore Drive stated he uses this trail
between Meridian and Dern Road and he supports the statement
made that the majority of use occurs the first 2 miles. He feels there
should be some sort of separation between the city street and the
trail. He is aware that there are a number of roads and driveways
along the trail to Kila; however those crossing points were in place
long before the trail was built and are consider an acceptable risk.
Many younger children and elderly people use the first 2 miles
because of the fact that there are no major road crossings for the first
2 miles and it is important to keep it that way.
Phyllis Snow, 66 Stonecrest Drive stated she served on the original
Rails to Trails board and she is a trail volunteer. She feels the trail
should have a bridge. The trail between Meridian Road and Dern
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Road is a highly desirable stretch of trail for many users. It is
accessible for children walking to Peterson School, the school uses
the trail for school activities, the trail is close to town, it has parking
on both ends, and is still largely rural and very park -like. She used
examples of people with small children, disabled and the elderly
who use the trail and asked what will happen to them when they
reach this crossing. The maintenance of the street in the winter is
also a concern. Snow said she thought the easement was theirs and
others would have to fit in with them, which hasn't happened. She
doesn't feel the Turner's have worked with Rails to Trails like they
should have. She is upset that the beautiful Ponderosa pine tree
along the trail may be obliterated. It is a part of their park and is the
only mature tree along this section of trail. Snow said let's rework
this idea and get a bridge out there.
Ashley Grassa, 72 Rockwood Road stated she is the Vice President
for Literacy Volunteers of Flathead County and the 5K Race
Director. This year will be the 5th year for the 5K and when they
were looking for an area to plan an unbroken stretch of 2.3 miles the
only place was the Rails to Trails Meridian Trail. It is beautiful,
tourists use the trail for the scenery; it is a good fundraiser and if
they have to stop at a stop signs to continue a race, who has the
right-of-way, the runners or the cars. About the only other running
area would be on the highway. Grassa said she would like to
preserve an unbroken trail to hold races and other outdoor events.
Another point is that a lot of small towns have running areas along
rivers and streams and Kalispell should too.
Patrick Thomas, 175 Lakeshore Drive stated he is in opposition to
this subdivision. He is opposed to the extensive increase in traffic to
Meridian Road. It is already bumper to bumper during peak hours
and he asked what kind of traffic volumes would there be on
Meridian with full build -out of a subdivision this large — 2000
additional trips per day. The infrastructure does not seem to be in
sync with this type of growth. Thomas said he is concerned about the
access onto Foys Lake Road because it looks like a major percentage
of traffic from this development will dump onto Foys Lake Road
and asked if a traffic light at that intersection has been considered.
He is also concerned about the impact to the school system, the
impact to property values because it seems to be a major blight on
the landscape, and a project of this size needs the expertise of
architects, landscape architects, engineers, civil engineers and realty
specialists. He added it doesn't appear to be properly planned out.
Horace Sanders, 161 Oxbow Trail said he has been with Rails to
Trails for quite a few years. It comes down to safety and kids. The
city has standards for crossings and this one is an A-1 crossing now
and has to be kept at an A-1. The only mitigation that would be
appropriate is a bridge carrying the trail over the street.
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Julie Robinson, 955 Foys Lake Road asked for clarification of where
the exit onto Foys Lake Road is going to be. She is concerned that
the access is across from her driveway and safety. If that issue isn't
taken care of there will be a large number of vehicles using the road
through the subdivision to avoid using Meridian Road. She feels the
intersection of this road and Foys Lake Road should at the very least
have a traffic light.
Alex Hogle, Flathead County Planning & Zoning Office stated he
provided comments on the trail crossing which were included in the
board's packets. Hogle said the letter discusses the minimum
requirements that the county feels must be adhered to if the trail is
reconstructed whether at an at -grade crossing or if a bridge is
determined to be the best solution from a city perspective. He
reviewed the standards that that address safety for running length of
trail as well as for crossings. An adequate at -grade crossing that is
constructed and designed correctly can be very safe. The second part
of his letter includes additional recommendations that are
specifically intended to promote a further level of safety, primarily
visual including traffic calming design in the street that would create
a narrowing and slowing of traffic; a stamped colored concrete
crossing that would be more visible both to site and texture than a
painted striped crossing; as well a recommendation to include a
pedestrian activated light signal. Hogel suggested using solar lighted
signs which would lower the cost for operation.
Schutt asked if the trail standards are ASHTO standards and Hogle
said the trail construction itself in terms of sub grade compaction and
then the bituminous layer of asphalt would need to comply with the
ASHTO standards. The CTEP program defaults towards those
standards. In terms of safety features and considerations the
standards that are applicable are the ADAAG standards that require
a running length for CTEP funded trails to not exceed a 5% grade. In
the exception where there are slight occurrences where that grade
cannot be met they do have requirements for ramping that could
allow a trial to go up to 8%. It does appear that the design that is
currently proposed does demonstrate that the trail could be
reconstructed to fall below the 5% maximum for the running length
and it appears to be reasonable.
Clark asked if the county is recommending an at -grade crossing and
not a bridge and Hogle said the county is not opposed to a bridge but
it is not recommending that a bridge be required. Hinchey said so the
county is only concerned with meeting the minimal standards and
Hogle said no, at a minimum the minimum standards must be met. It
is anticipated that the design requirements of ASHTO and ADAAG
are geared towards an acceptable level of safety. These are national
standards designed specifically for that, he added. Hinchey asked if
the standards make a distinction between a driveway crossing and a
street crossing as opposed to a collector street crossing and Hogle
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said they do not. Hogle said there is room for discretion however and
the county understands the city may have other perspectives and
might make a different decision but the county feels as far as their
recommendations go they need to be clear that at a minimum the
grades must fall within that acceptable range and in addition the
county has requested additional items that actually go above and
beyond minimum requirements.
Sonal Frickle, 110 Ashley Hills Drive stated she bought her home
about 3 years ago based on its location near the trail system. After a
year of enjoying the trail she now volunteers with Rails to Trails and
supports making the trail system bigger than it already is. Frickle
said she completely agrees with the fellow trail users and volunteers
who spoke previously. Although it does concern her that a new
development is being considered in these tough economic times one
point that she wanted to make it is a selling point for the town of
Kalispell and preserving it and ensuring the safety of the users is
very important.
Torn Esch, 4 Meridian Court stated from their office they can see the
development as it is taking place and he is also a weekly trail user.
Esch said he is grateful to the planning board for their volunteer
work in making hard decisions like this and to the Rails to Trails
volunteers. Esch also noted he represented the Turner's on their
behalf when the government took their land away and they had an
arbitration to determine the fairness of their compensation. He added
is not representing the Turner's today.
Esch said the current trail route has changed with construction of the
bypass and will be routed differently after the bypass is constructed.
Esch suggested instead of having the trail routed to reconnect after it
goes under the bypass it should connect with the proposed trail
within the Willow Creek subdivision and then access the original
trail via the trail along the future city street, Plymouth Crossing.
Esch said the question is should the crossing be at -grade, above the
grade, or below the grade. The recommendations from the city and
county staff are to comply with the standards as they are set. If you
go beyond that what standards are used to apply the decision? Esch
supports the at -grade crossing and one of the concerns he has with a
bridge is in order to have the 5% grade you would have to bring the
edges of the bridge further back. The intersection where the road
meets the bike path is also a way to get on the bike path if there is a
bridge it makes access to the trail more difficult. He also noted a
bridge is an attractive nuisance for criminals to drop things on
vehicles; and an underpass is difficult to maintain and a safety
concern. If the crossing is at grade you won't have those problems.
Esch continued the city, in the previous plat, required the developer
to have an alternate access to the north and he isn't sure that
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additional access is necessary especially with the bypass round-
about giving the driver the ability to go north or south. At the work
session there were concerns about Meridian Road and the traffic
problems but the traffic has already been changed because of the
closure on Appleway and that will change a lot more when the
bypass is completed. Esch said the board could consider removing
the requirement of a northern access road .which would remove the
need to cross the trail with a city street. But if that crossing will be
maintained use the standards that the staff has imposed and make the
rules the same for everyone and leave it at -grade.
MOTION - PUD For discussion purposes Schutt moved and Hinchey seconded a
motion to adopt the findings in staff report KPUD-10-01 as findings
of fact and recommend to the Kalispell City Council that the PUD
for Willow Creek be amended subject to the conditions listed in the
staff report.
BOARD DISCUSSION Graham asked if the Parks and Recreation Department agreed to set
up a parks maintenance district and how will that be funded.
Conrad said there would be a parks maintenance assessment on all
the lots within the subdivision, the city would own the parks and
then maintain them. Conrad further explained how this currently
works with other subdivisions where the open space areas that is
aesthetically important to the project and in the event the
homeowners association (HOA) fails to maintain it or if for some
reason in the future the HOA folds then the city can determine if
the area needs to be maintained for the function of utilities or
aesthetics and can require additional fees from the lot owners to
take care of that. Griffin added normally with an HOA they are
already assessing each homeowner for maintenance of parks, for
plowing, etc.
Clark noted at the work session the board recommended that Mr.
Turner meet with Rails to Trails as soon as possible. What has
happened since that request and Conrad said the work session was
held April 13th and he called Mr. Turner the next day to review the
major issues brought up at the work session including the
recommended meeting with Rails to Trails. Conrad then followed
up with a letter addressing those points again. Early last week Mr.
Turner came into the office and presented the conceptual cross -
slope of what the at -grade crossing would look like. Turner told
Conrad he had talked to the county about whether or not the
proposed at -grade crossing was acceptable and asked city staff to
forward the information on to Rails to Trails. Conrad added he
encouraged Mr. Turner to go to the Rails to Trails meeting that was
scheduled last week but instead Turner requested that Conrad set
up a meeting with Turner, city and county staff and representatives
of Rails to Trails to be held after the Rails to Trails meeting. That
meeting was set up and held yesterday, May 10, 2010.
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Graham noted the difference in grading of the stormwater retention
area from 2007 and the new proposal, which is much steeper.
Graham asked what their proposed solution is because he doesn't
think the retaining walls will work. Turner said the 2007 plan did
not propose grading but showed some conceptual ideas but the
design level was not anything close to final. Turner said as far as
being able to meet the grades with retaining walls he isn't sure that
is possible either and his solution would be to redesign the
stormwater retention pond.
Schutt asked Turner why he feels an at -grade crossing at the bike
path would work and Turner said he heard the board's urging that
he meet with the Rails to Trails as soon as possible. Turner said
immediately the next morning he talked to his engineer instructing
him to redraw the plans for the trail crossing to better meet
ASHTO, CTEP and safety standards so that would be available.
Turner said it took 10 or 11 days to get that accomplished. Then he
tried to set up a meeting with Mr. Hogle at the county but
unfortunately due to a death in Mr. Hogle's family he was unable
to meet with Turner until Monday of last week. After he met with
Mr. Hogle he was then in the city planning office asking that a
meeting be set between Turner and Rails to Trails and the earliest
that Rails to Trails could meet with him was yesterday morning.
Turner said his rationale for an at -grade crossing is to preserve as
much of the existing trail as is there while still keeping a
reasonable handle on the safety issue. As a number of people have
said most of the trail use takes place on the first 2 miles before
Dern Road. He suggested creating a closed 2 mile loop without
having to cross a roadway. As far as the rationale for the at -grade
crossing Turner continued, they have been able to balance the
safety issue against a cost issue in the best manner possible and
they welcome the county's conditions to promote safety at this
crossing. Turner said it meets a test of reasonability as to what
could be expected. If the board disagrees with him he would ask
that rather than simply requiring a bridge that the board discuss
options for a separated grade crossing.
Mendius said referring to the Foys Lake Road frontage issue he is
not trying to micro -manage the project but asked if Turner, as the
developer, has considered the elimination of 13 lots numbered 459-
471 which would buy a lot more space in order to create a gentler
grade and solve a number of obvious problems. Turner said they
did consider that but he added it would decimate the first phase of
the project. Turner added there are some other options that he
would like to explore first including redesigning the stormwater
retention pond as mentioned previously.
Schutt noted Turner mentioned that he was trying to address to
city's requests for the final engineering and he wants to know
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exactly what is being approved and is this issue still in a state of
flux. Turner responded the one stormwater pond along Foys Lake
Road is still in a state of flux.
Clark said if the developer was planning to propose a redesign of
the bike path why wasn't it brought up at the work session instead
of at the public hearing and Turner explained he had not yet
received the proposed conditions of approval which would require
the portion of the bike path be constructed with the 5th phase of the
subdivision at the same time Plymouth Crossing'would need to be
constructed. The conditions would also require the trail connection
where the bypass is redirecting the trail. The conditions of approval
if adopted would also modify their phasing plan.
Hinchey said he agrees with the possibility of eliminating the lots.
Turner indicated he wanted to study that some more in the hope of
maintaining more of the natural grade in that area by taking out the
western half of the pond. Hinchey said when he was on site
yesterday the road is already being cut and the natural grade is
already gone. Turner said he is referring to the grade between Foys
Lake Road and the road that is being constructed and he explained
further. Hinchey said he doesn't see how a 10% grade will be
achieved on the lots on the other side of that road.
Schutt asked at full build out what are the traffic volume
predictions for Plymouth Crossing. Conrad said approximately
1300 vehicle trips per day. Schutt asked for comparison traffic
counts on current streets and Conrad said in the Kalispell 2006
Transportation Plan Update it lists 0 Avenue East/Hedges School
area at approximately 1700 vehicle trips per day; Conrad Drive
near Woodland Park approximately 10,000; Woodland Avenue has
2100; and Foys Lake Road is about 4,000 vehicle trips per day.
Schutt asked if Plymouth Crossing would be classified as a
collector street and Conrad said in the 2007 submittal Plymouth
Crossing was classified as a collector but that was before we knew
when the alternate truck route would be constructed. Clark noted
the board knew the alternate truck route was going through there in
2007 and that was considered in the board's review. Conrad added
we knew the route was going in but we didn't know when it would
be constructed. Clark said if the alternate route was built he would
still want a collector road through this development and now it has
been eliminated. Conrad said there is still a road being proposed up
to Highway 2 West but the design is different.
Burnham said the design of the road in the original 2007 proposal
was a collector from Foys Lake Road to US Highway 2 West. The
new design functions more like a residential street. It will draw
people out of the subdivision so they do not have to use Foys Lake
Road but can go up to US Highway 2 West. Schutt said what is a
comparable road and Burnham said we do not have a lot of similar
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collectors but there was one recently built in the Silverbrook
subdivision north of town. It restricts access somewhat, not
allowing driveways on that road, it provides for a higher speed, and
concentrates the traffic and moves it out of the subdivision.
Griffin said it is his understanding that road would not be
constructed until phase 5 and Conrad said that is correct and that
requirement was based on the number of lots per phase and the
recommended improvements in the Traffic Impact Study. Griffin
asked when is the projected date for phase 5 and Conrad said based
on the application package fall of 2012.
Schutt said he spoke with Bob Ablien, the author of this traffic
study and they agreed they are dealing with a traffic situation that
has a couple of unknowns; the timing and build out of this
subdivision and not knowing how the west side alternate truck
route will affect traffic on the larger scale and specifically on
.Meridian Road. The conclusions of this study is that a majority of
eastbound traffic, either coming out of Willow Creek or down Foys
Lake Road that wants to go north will use the alternate route, but
the percentage is unknown. Schutt added based on the traffic study
he is willing to reconsider requiring the north/south road at all or at
least until they see how the bypass works and what the impacts
really are. Eliminating that north/south access road would also
relieve the issue of the bike path crossing.
Hinchey disagreed and said connectivity is important and if you
take out the Plymouth Crossing connection that makes a captivated
subdivision that is forced out at Foys Lake Road. Hinchey said he
would be opposed to eliminating the north/south street
requirement.
Schutt asked Burnham to explain the reason the north/south road
was recommended. Burnham said the original plan was to have the
north/south road even though the alternate truck route was being
considered. This north/south road then appeared to be a solution to
move traffic and keep some traffic from having to use Foys Lake
Road and Meridian Road which would ultimately cause those
roadways and intersections to fail. Now that we have timeline on
the alternate truck route he thinks the question is do we still need
the north/south street and the one constant that still remains is Foys
Lake Road. If you look at the current traffic on Foys Lake Road —
4,000 vehicles trips per day — Willow Creek subdivision. at build -
out would essentially double that number. Taking Meridian Road
out, taking the alternate truck route out there is still an impact on
Foys Lake Road without that connectivity. The north/south road is
still a solution for traffic congestion or increased traffic on Foys
Lake Road.
Schutt said what sort of exit requirements do we have for a
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subdivision and Burnham said in subdivision where there are 20-40
residential lots there needs to be a second access which is part of
phase 1 of Willow Creek. Both of these access roads will be onto
Foys Lake Road at that time.
Jentz said there isn't clear information or a specific number
threshold when the 3rd approach should come in. Jentz continued
when this came through in 2007 the alternate truck route was still a
good dream, the phases were much larger, and the impacts to
Meridian Road could have been catastrophic and therefore the
recommendation was to require the 3rd access road to the north in
phase 1. Today the landscape has changed because of the
alternative truck route construction where we will be able to drive
on it before Thanksgiving and the phases are now much smaller.
Clark said he has a hunch that people will be taking the alternate
truck route and dropping off at Foys Lake Road to get to the
downtown area and he thinks Meridian Road will be loaded and
not relieved from the alternate truck route. Jentz said the traffic
study recommends reanalyzing the traffic impacts with each phase
because trying to figure out human behavior is a real wild card.
Hinchey said back to the Rails to Trails crossing, it looks to him
that Plymouth Crossing, after it leaves Ducksberry Loop drops
down to the crossing of Ashley Creek which is pretty steep and you
will have to climb quite a bit to get back to the trail. Hinchey said it
seems logical that the climb would be a little less steep if you put in
a simple bridge. It looks like a smoother grade from the creek to
Highway 2. Turner said he hadn't thought about lowering the road
only raising the road. Turner continued that culvert crossing is
planned to be raised approximately 6 feet from its current elevation
and the reason is to provide cover over the water and sewer pipes
that will be serving Willow Creek. Turner said so that will create a
challenge and whether it is insurmountable or not he doesn't know.
Schutt asked for an approximate elevation difference between the
creek crossing and the Rails to Trails crossing and Clark said he
estimated about 15 feet and added Rails to Trails has a rise coming
to the west where the grade could be continued. Clark said he
doesn't see why the street couldn't go under the trail and adding a
nice pedestrian bridge would solve the problem.
Schutt asked if the developer's engineer could provide a brief
analysis of that option and Turner said the culvert crossing is
approximately 550 feet to the south of the trail crossing. In order to
anticipate future grades and not impact other property owners, once
the road crosses the trail it is adjacent to property that he doesn't
own so they have to be sensitive to that. Lowering the road could
be an option and he said the elevation difference between the
culvert crossing and the trail crossing is approximately 7 feet where
the road will go uphill about 7 feet. Turner said the current plan is
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to bring the trail down about 6 feet and to bring the roadway across
the culvert up about 6 feet. Turner said the challenge would be
trying to match grades on the north side of the trail with the
adjacent property owners and still achieve the water and sewer
coverage over the culverts, which is necessary, but they can take a
look at that. Hinchey said it seems there is a solution there that
hasn't been explored. Turner said all they are talking about doing
as far as lowering the trail is moving that grade change further to
the west and leveling it out some. Turner said their road where it
crosses the trail is almost even with the trail when it starts that
incline.
Griffin said he feels very uncomfortable with this Rails to Trails
issue not being resolved and he felt when he left the work session
that this issue was going to be a high priority for the developer and
Rails to Trails and they would come to a reasonable solution. He
has heard some alternatives that possibly could be a reasonable,
relatively non -expensive solution. Griffin said he doesn't want to
and isn't capable of re -engineering the crossing but there has to be
a point where although it won't meet 100% approval on either side
it will be enough for everyone to walk away without blood on the
shield. Griffin said he doesn't feel comfortable making a
recommendation tonight.
Turner said the meeting to try to resolve this issue was held
yesterday and at that meeting it was clear people there were
adamant that there would be a grade separated crossing. Turner
said he doesn't feel that is appropriate. He as the developer has
gone to reasonable lengths to ensure safety at the crossing and
Rails to Trails disagrees and unfortunately we have not been able
to come to an understanding about this issue. Turner added the
resolution to this issue will more than likely have to come from the
planning board.
Griffin said that is unfortunate because he for one will support the
3rd access to the north because he feels it is absolutely essential for
a subdivision with 500 homes.
Clark summarized the issues raised at the hearing noting that the
Turner's had failed to adequately address some of the key points of
the 2007 approvals and this makes it extremely difficult to move
forward on the 2010 application. For example the lack of a
collector road that accesses Highway 2, the lack of proper aesthetic
treatment along Foys Lake Road, the stormwater design that
detracts from the overall subdivision, and Clark questioned the
timing of moving ahead with earth moving prior to final approvals.
MOTION TO TABLE I Clark moved and Hinchey seconded a motion to table the Willow
Creek project indefinitely.
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BOARD PRESIDENT ASKED Schutt asked for a distinction between tabling to a specific date and
FOR CLARIFICATION tabling indefinitely.
Jentz said to table to a specific date it comes back up at that point
and discussion will continue. To table a project indefinitely it
remains on the table until some issue or factor is present to bring it
back up and either way it will require a motion from the board to
take it off the table for reconsideration.
There is no discussion after a motion to table unless the motion fails.
ROLL CALL I The motion to table the Willow Creek project indefinitely passed on
a roll call vote of 6 in favor and 1 opposed.
OLD BUSINESS: I None.
NEW BUSINESS: Conrad noted there are three conditional use permits on the June
planning board agenda: An expansion of the Faith Free Lutheran
Church on Liberty Street; an expansion & 16. unit addition for the
Buffalo Hill Terrace/Immanuel Lutheran complex; and an
expansion of the Faith Covenant Presbyterian Church on 3rd
Avenue East and 6d' Street. In addition Conrad said there is another
issue in the community for the Freedom House on 3rd Avenue West
which staff has requested they submit a conditional use permit
application for a group home but no application has been submitted
and staff is still in discussion with the city attorney on how to
address their facility.
Jentz said there are no additional work sessions scheduled for June,
July or August but if there is enough time for a work session to be
held after a regular meeting it will be scheduled.
Griffin asked what planning projects are still pending city council
review/approval and Jentz noted the annexation policy
recommendations and the zoning ordinance update. Beginning in
the fall the planning board will be discussing the update of the
Growth Policy document and the subdivision regulations.
Jentz noted the board received a draft memo to council and
attachments on the annexation policy. Jentz reviewed the memo for
the board. Depending on the council's decision the annexation
policy will come back to the planning board for public hearing and
then forwarded on to council for approval.
Jentz said in light of the summer months almost upon us would the
board be interested in starting the meetings at 6:00 p.m. instead of
7:00 p.m. for the months of June, July and August and although the
earlier start may be a slight problem for board member Mendius
the board agreed to start the meetings mentioned above at 6:00
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Clark said because of the construction season being slow is the
board's new schedule going to preclude a project from moving
forward and Jentz said no there are no major developments out
there.
Griffin asked if Bloomstone is moving forward and Jentz said not
at this time.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:30 p.m.
WORK SESSION
Due to the late hour the scheduled work session was not held.
NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board
and Zoning Commission is scheduled for June 8, 2010 at 6:00
p.m. in the Kalispell City Council Chambers located at 201
First Avenue East in Kalispell.
The next work session of the Kalispell City Planning Board and
Zoning Commission is tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, June 8,
O10 immediately following the regular meeting (if time
ows).
Bryan H. Schutt
President
APPROVED as submitted/corrected: &Pp -/ 10
Michelle Anderson
Recording Secretary
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