05-23-785-23-78
Minutes approved:
5-9-78.
Public Hearing:
Green Acres West
Unit #3.
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The regular meeting of the Kalispell City -County
Planning Board was held Tuesday, May 23, 1978, at
7:30 p.m. in the Flathead County Courthouse East,
Community Room,'-723 .5th. Avenue East, Kalispell, Mt.
Members Present:
Garmen Meadows
Jay Shropshire
J. Lupton
Dale W. Haarr
Fran 011endike
Ray Lybeck
Dorothy Garvin
Walter A. Griffin Jr.
John Kain
Others Present:
1 APO Staff Representati
James E. Mohn
4 Guests
The. medting.of the Kalispell.City-County Planning
Board was called to order by President Dale Haarr
at 7:33 p.m.,
President Dale Haarr called for additions or correcti
to the Minutes of May 9, 1978, and the Minutes were
approved as mailed.
Jim Mohn presented a brief summary of the project,
noting some corrections in the.Staff Report with
respects to:
I.A.7. Chg. 15,000 sq.. ft. min to. 17,000 sq. ft. Min.
(Pg. 1)
II.C.2.a.) Building sites
(Pg.3) Strike last line %�8, unfavorable slope.
II.C.2.a.)
(Pg.4) Strike %;17, high erosion hazard
II.E.l.e.)
(Pg.5) Paving is now a county requirement.
II. F. 1. a. ) 25.2 Acres of Kalispell-and.-Tally-6e-fies-.
(Pg.6) soils Class II.
Strike:----Aees-of-Kalispell-6eies---Glass-CFI
The Kalispell-and.-Tally-series soils are
II.I.2. Add: the Staff would.recommend a 10' easement
(Pg.7) or dedication - - - -
Jim also read a letter from Mr. Marquardt requesting
a special consideration•be given with respects to
time limits to be imposed on future road construction
deadlines, (copy attached).
Dean Marquardt spoke with regards to the project and
discussed methods of controlling setback distances
along Willow Glen Drive and recommended that the
Board determine how best to handle any method of
reserving right-of-way for future expansion of Willow
Glen: Drive. He offered.to either make an outright
dedication of additional 10' along.right-of-way
of control it through setbacks in.Covenants. .
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He also stated that he had no objection to a Master
Plan on the balance of their properties assuming that
the planning board•would give his firm. an indication
as to how to zone the area and master plan it
accordingly.
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Ray Lybeck questioned the reasoning behind the
additional dedication of right-of-way along Willow
Glen Drive and Jim Mohn gave a brief history of the
Willow Glen Drive By -Pass Plan that was proposed
several years ago and stated that he could not
justify the outright dedication at this point but
felt consideration should be given for setbacks.
Consensus of the group was to at least notify or
bring to the attention of the County Commissioners
the possible for need for additional dedication
along this Willow Glen right-of-way. The only
adjacent landowner to the proposal, Mr. and Mrs.
Behrens sited concerns dealing with water quality
and water quantity, siting the number of users on
the community water systems and the number of septic.
systems that would be established in the area.
They indicated that some area wells are registered
between 55-60' in depth. She also stated that there
was history of traffic conflicts and problems within
the vicinity and felt that additional consideration
should be given to ingress and egress from the
area to the west. Current traffic on South Woodland
Drive is significant. -
Additional discussion 1. on the part of Mr. Marquardto
dealt with the matter°of water rights appropriation
through the State Dept. of Natural Resources.
Mr. William Wheeler, an interested citizen, questioned
the inequities in the -square footage requirements
with respects to -septic systems for single family
lots versus trailor courts. Jim responded to the
comments stating that two separate standards seemed
to be justified since mobile home parks were
subjected to annual licensing, renewal and inspection.
Walt Griffin questioned Mr. Marquardt with respects
to drainage, possible culvert locations,
accessibly from existing county roads over borrow
pits to the lots that fronted on Haven Drive and
Willow Glen Drive.
Walt Griffin also questioned Mr. Marquardt with
respects to apparent engineering faults in the
previous section of the Green Acres West developments
and Mr. Marquardt indicated that those inequities
were being corrected and assured Mr. Griffin that
these problems would not occur in Unit No. 3.
Discussion was also conducted with respects.
to possible sewer services to the area and street
design standards, assuming the possibility that the
development site may within the not too distant
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future become city property. Chairman Haarr requested
that Jim review.the history of the Staff's
recommendations dealing with sections of the Oxbow
Slough area, as Greenbelt or park area. This was done
and Walt Griffin wished to note that,the"s..ection that
the planning board recommended fo.r park area in. the
Greendale Addition had not been,accepted by the city
and at.the cityy s recommendation, lot lines were
extended to the center line of the slough:
At the'request of the members of the Board, Jim Mohn
also outlined the Staffs discussion sketches for
zoning and traffic flow in the general vicinity that
would tie east, west and north -south traffic together
to provide additional traffic flows from this general
area to Willow 'Glen Drive. and.to.US,#93,
Dean Marquardt was, asked .if considerations were being
given for fire fighting capabilities within the water
systems within the project and Mr. Marquardt stated
that.considerations were.to be given in the water
system for this unit to'allow.the`volunteer fire
department that serves the area.to at least be
serviced by water for recharge of tanker and pumper
trucks.
Mr. Marquardt did state that water system would have
a C' main lines. and would be tied in with the original
Green Acres Wes t development and would be served by
three wells,. on a continuous system.
Following this discussion, Garmen Meadows moved that.,
the Kalis.peTl City -.County Planning Board recommend
to the Board of County Commissioners'of Flathead
County that the preliminary plat of Green Acres West
Unit #3 be approved with the following conditions:
1. That all water and sewer systems be approved by
the State Dept. of Health anal County Sanitarian,
2. that the access drainage easement comments noted
under Sec. I..l. be incorporated into the final
design,:*
3. tha:t.all roads within the development and Kelly
Road bebuilt to county standards and dedicated,
4. that the developer work out an agreement with the
County Commissioners and/or the County Road Dept.
providing for the future possible widening of
Willow Glen Drive,
5. that the developer's suggestion or condition be
accepted regarding a condition of approval and
commitmen:t,by the developer to dedicate the
additional roads,,South.Woodland and Kelly Road
when 35 lots in Unit No. 3 are sold, so long as
Kelly Road is dedicated all the way to U.S.. 93,
6. that Covenants be placed on Unit No. 3, in keeping
W with previous Units of Green Acres est, and
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7. that the developer petition for R-3 Zoning.
Proposed Subdivisions:
..Zoning Commission
Good and Welfare
*With respects to the homeowners park site,
the Staff would recommend that the access
presently shown between Lots 112 and 113 be
removed with a replacement of that access
located between Lots 114 and 115 and that the
drainage easement location shown at the southern
most portion of the homeowners park be in-
corporated into a second access located between
Lots 111 and 112, for both drainage and
access purposes by using this contour the na-
tural drainage could be followed in a later
phase and possibly used to connect this home-
owners park with the Oxbow Slough located to
the south of the site in hopes of establishing
at some later date an integrated greenbelt,
pedestrian, equistrian system throughout the
master plan yet to be developed.
Walt Griffin seconded the motion.
Discussion on a portion of the Covenants and
application followed. Mr. Marquardt stated that the
Covenants are fine if landowners inforce them.
Garmen and Walt Griffin discussed the pros and cons
of zoning of the development and agreed that to
achieve the long range goal of adequate zoning
in the area, that it was the best approach at this
time to recommend that the developers petition
for R-3 zoning. Mr. Marquardt indicated that
this was satisfactory.
The question was called for and the motion carried.
Jim Mohn handed out copies of sketch development
plus those abilities instrumatic form for the area
on top -of Buffalo Hill between Centerview Lane and
Parkview Terrace between Hwy 93 and Grandview Ave.
Jim handed,out the maps of the sketch and indicated
that this was strictly for discussion purposes.
Allowing for commercial high density and medium
density in the area witha schematic road network
through the development to connect to the various
roadways that.presently exist in the vicinity.
Work'Mtg.There being no further business, Dale Haarr stated
that their next meeting (Work Meeting) would be a
week from tonight in the Community Room for Zoning
discussion purposes.
John Kain stated that he would not be able to
attend that meeting due to a public hearing conflict.
John Kain questioned the liability on the part
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of planning board members and their actions relative
to the fact that the board did not have an attorney
representing the board in their actions and decisions
as individuals and as a planning board.
Following discussion, lead to the conclusion that the
Board had acted in good faith and good judgement and
did not feel that the presence of an attorney
defending or representing the board would present
a comfortable open discussion relationship between
the public and/or the board members.
Walt Griffin also mentioned that if there were a
legal problem presented, it would be the board's
responsibility to point out the possible legal
question to the Board of County Commissioners and
request that their council.mak e recommendations
relative to the proper resolution of the conflict.
There being no further business, the meeting
adjourned at about 10:15 p.m.
Dale W. Haarr, Pres. Garmen Meadows, Secr..
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