09-27-77I
J9-27�77
The. regul a r meet i ng of the Kai i-spel 1, City -County Planning Board
was .held Tuesday, September 27., 1977 at 7:30 p.m. in the
Flathead County, Courthouse East, 723 5th. Avenue East, Kalispell,
Montana, Community Room.
Members Present: others Present
Dorothy- Gar vi n l APO Staff Representative
Ha rvey ' Knebe l ' 58 Guests
Fran ollendike
W. � J . Lupton .
Ga rmen Meadows
Ray Lybeck .
Walter A: Griffin 'Jr.
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The meeting was' ca II ed to order ' by Ac`i ng Chairman, Walter A.
Griffin at 7;45. p,m.
Minutes -approved.
Minutes of September : 13, 1977 were approved as mailed by
a motion from Harvey Knebel ; seconded by Dorothy Garvin:
motion carried.
Cornmun i cations.
A letter" was read by' J i m Mohn from the Smith Valley -Fire Dept.
concerning "fire department faci l-i ti es in conjunction with rural
community water ' systems . Copy attached.
Jim Mohn also''- read a letter f rom the Board . of County Commissioners
with reference -to the final plat of Lake Shore Hills No. I
w i-th the "APO Staff recommendations and comments.
Pub i G Hearings :
Walt Griffin announced - that ' St i ] ]water Terrace Unit No. 3 would
Stillwater terrace -*
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not be heard because theproposal had been withdrawn from the
Withdrawn.
review. procedure' as of that after;
Kings Loop Subdivision.
Jim Mohn presented, the Staff comments with .relation to the
proposed d eve-1 opme n t with Staff recommendations . Bill Doyle,
project surveyor, 'briefly outlined the' developers intent of the
project and Mr-. Orrin -Strei ch, owner -Developer, made a few.
comments .
Stan Han t �fo rd , adjacent landowner, indicated potential sewer
problems -in the area because the development site . i s basically
a gravel ' pi le and indicated that.. he' has a well at 207' in depth
and that the well driller had i ndi cated'to him that the well
could be p improper of l uted i�f im systems were installed
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in the proposed development. He also questioned as to whether
a water l i ne wou I d . be' -i ns to l I ed - i n the road easement across
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Lot 74 to provide water to the four .home sites which presently
exist along the western edge of this proposal.
Duane Ca r l do , a resident of Cherry Lynn Estates spoke in
opposition to the'. extens i.on of Cherry Lynn Road to -the south
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to tie in with this deVelo mentR
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Morris B randen re'i terated Carlon's comments . and also indicated
a con f 1. i ct with the proposed park area since a portion of this
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area . was to Have been -or i g i n-a l l y : been ' set ' as i de by. the
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developer. of Cherry-. Lynn Estates as Homeowners Park for that
subdivision Apparently this has never been completed and
considerable discussion fo'l low' ed on that topic.
Mrs.- W iese, ' an adjacent landowner, on the north, who .control s
part of the access from the proposed development site to the
end -of Cherry Lynn Road stated . that she '. was in opposition of the
plan to tie' this development into Cherry Lynn Road.
Morris B randen further indicated that -the east side of this
development was subject to standing water dur i ng certain
parts of the year and that this section of -the development
had been f i I led- in 'at one t i me and is not real ly su i table
for development*
Sharon Hanford, an adjacent owner, questioned the locations
of the roads on the prel i mi nary plat,. say ng that she felt
there was a..conf I .i ct wi th..'C&G Plywood's property.
Bi 1I Doyle, Project Surveyor,said that that would be investigated
further and doubted that .such conflicts existed*
Duane Ca r l In stated that this area was subjected to high g round
water level in'. .1974.
Mr. Robb ns , also an adjacent owner, stated opposition to -the
through street to connect, with .Cherry Lynn Road. He stated that
they presently have. a real traffic problem with the n umbe r of
cars and kids-.'
Mrs..- Wi6e stated concern as to whether the zoning would be {
sat i .s facto-ry to cont rol bu i l-ding sites and if not suggested that
very strong covena nt s ' be' emp` 16.mi en to d .
Walter Ord stated that he. ,felt that tests on the wa ter . tab I e
shoul d:. be made during periods of high ground .water and ' not
based 'on to-s is . taken th i s ''yea r.. - 0
One other un i dent i f i ed.. res i dent of Cherry Lynn Estates, indicated
,that he feI t Protect i-ve Covenants were in effect that control I ed
future access or use of Cherry Lynn Road beyond those lots
.presently served
Following a point by po i nt' evaluation of the Staff Report,
.Fran 0 ll end i ke moved that Kings Loop Subd i-v i s i on be approved
subject to the following' cond i t,i ons : -
1. That' water must be' provided by the' Evergreen dater System,
2 .. that ' a I l sewer systems and septic systems , * etc . be approved
by the State Department of: Health with -particular consideration
given to the. comp l i ca.t i ons that may exist on this pa rt i cu l a r
site
3.. that the subdivision be redesigned to provide a more suitable
locat i on for the ' Montana' Power Gas Li he Easement, Lots .51
h rough'. 55 *,on King `s .Bay be read j.us ted ' for w i der '. f ron Cage on the
cul-de=sac and that Lot 74 'be revised -to accommodate the 40'
easement as i nd.i cated on Certificate of Survey'. A,11'..
46: that, .a con t i-nuat-i on of the .K i ng' s Way Road and •. Cherry
Lynn _Road ' be p rov i ded. for with . a 601. easement , noting that
this -may be d i.ff i cu] t due toy, owner�sh i p and access agreements k
as . indicated. in' the 4. P. D. Staff Report,
5, that Restrictive Covenants be required, as to all
construction of 'homes and/or mobile homes placed on said lots.
Covenants' must first be. approved by the -appropriate planning
board and/or- governing body, .-Permanent foundations shall be
req u i red .-on mob i' l e home and. a 1.1 l i v i n g s pa ce mus t be 800, s qua re
feet of ground :floor- area for_.a spl i t entry home and 1,000. square
1.1 feet on a single level home.
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Item 8 in the' Covenants should be further amended to add that
any change i n . the Covenants must first be approved by the
appropr i ate .. pl ann i ng or governing body or their heirs or
successors.
6.. that f i"nal acceptance -of the. proposed park dedication be
i ent, on fur con her -discuss ion and review wi-th the Count
contingent, up f t y
Park Board, and
E 79 that roads be built to County standards and dedicated to the
County.
Seconded' by' Dorothy Garvin: motion carried.
Hidden Meadows -.Mobile Jim Mahn b r i e f l y ou t I i ned the p roposed deve I opment a nd rev i ewed
Home Park.- the S to f f.-Repo rt. a nd recommenda.t i ons an d . then read I et to rs f rom
adjacent owners and. area landowners with respect to this
development.
Mr:. Dean Mar-q`uardt, .Surveyor and Engineer, for the proposal ,
gave comments dealing with the . deve l opment and stated that he
felt the dowel opment was not out of place or ,out of character
for the ' g i ven ' l ocat i on
Mr. Jim Lawrence, an adjacent landowner, provided several points
of information dealing with the* number ' of homes on the existing
Collier' Lane and Caroline Roads and stated .that a traffic problem
did .exist due to ,the narrow surface wid.th's:..of -the. existing roads.
He also indicated with reference, to potential flood problems
that he rowed ' a boat across the mob i l e - home park area in 1964
and also felt that there would have- be'. ethical and moral 1
issues involved here and felt -that- the: mob i le home park development
would - comp l ete l y ' and totally adversely affect the :nature and
cha ratter of the area.
4 Mr . ' B i I l F ra tt indicated that he ' had not rece i ved '. the'. certified
letter notifying him of this development .and fol lowing discussion
with members of the Board and the.' Staff it was. found.=. that his
name had been spelled orau in the' County Records and -in fact
that he had. not rece i ved ' adequate notice. This brought on
considerable.- discussion and Walt Griffin -asked Mr. Fratt if
he wished' to .exert i se-',h i s right to.: postpone any action on this
development until he could be ' g i ven ' t h e proper notification
ras requi-red by law .. He Waived', -that right and f u rthe r stated that
there eras -a f l ood i 'n g . p rob l em and a fire protection problem i- n this
vic1nity.
'Mr. Vern B r-onsvn; a resident to the east of this development,
'Stated', that , he -felt there was a total lack of room for this
development to. be,' incorporated. He stated that he presently has.-,
a 2 acre parcel and. -was requ i red to put in .420.. of dra i of i el d
for se.ptic :system . and didn't see how' f ac i.1 i t i es for an additional
19, tra i Iers couI d be' i ncorporated' on three acres of . land.
At this point H a rvey ' Knebe l ' s tated that- he was in opposition
to the development but would abstain from voting because he owns
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land in the general area.
A resident of 208. Caroline Avenue questi oned' the possibility of
a .continuation of. this type of development up and down these roads
if this -development were app roved ' and also felt that mobile
home parks were a commercial use and should be located on
commercial property.
Mrs. Lloyd Soders t rom:, one of the owners of the property
proposed for development,, stated that at present 5 school
children reside in the. existing development and that there
are no dogs except one old dog wh Vch belongs to them and she
indicated that one ad j a cent .landowner has an improperly
fenced area for s stud horse.
At this point someone raised the question of. Protective Covenants
which were enforced on .. Z i mwa l d Tracts.
Following further discussion by several people who were in
attendance,.,, it- was learned that the Covenants had been declared
void as of a court action some years previous.,
Mrs.Fuller', ter, a res i dent of the vicinity, stated_that she felt
there were very few open spaces left and th.e area presently had
enough trailers.
Following, further, discussion by.. members of the Boards Ray Lybeck
moved t'o deny, proposed development because the development
density, exceeded the.: recommended Comprehensive Plan density by
.14 d . u . p .,a..
The motion was seconded by Garmen Meadows: --motion carried
with Harvey Knebe l abstaini ng,
Meadow H i 11 s Subdivision Jim ,Rohn presented the Staff Re:port He briefly reviewed the
development proposal
One resident of the general area stated, he had no opposition
to the development but was conce rned 'that the number of proposed
lots in the development b'e i ng. served' by :,septic .systems could have
adverse effects on .water qual-i ty . of drainages. i n ..the area.
1 Following discussion by members of the'Board' clarifying. ownership
on adjacent l ands and certain easements . involved i n .obtaining
access to the area, Dorothy Garven ' moved '. that the:. development
be. approved as pe r . the fo 1.1 ow ng con i t i ohs:
1 e , That al I water and sewer systems be:'approved ' by'. the
State Department of Health
2. that the developer provide for fire fighting facilities in
conjunction w i t,h th.e ' proposed community .water system, reference
letter from Smi th vaI I ey' Vol,unt,eer' Fi re Department, attached,
3. that '.the. deve l ope. r petition. the ' Board.. of County
Commissioners to have. the' presently unzoned portion of the
development c l as s i f:i ed _ as an R-2 Residential Zoning
District with the'., res.tr i ct i ons as set. out in the . i4
Flathead :.County . Comprehensive �_Zon i ng Regu' l at ions, and
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