09-25-799-25-79
Planning Board
Composition:
October
Anticipated
Business:
PUBLIC HEARING:
Anderson Subdii
A regular meeting of the Kalispell City -County Planning
Board meeting was held Tuesday, September 25, 1979 at
7:30 p.m. in the Community Room of the Courthouse East,
723 5th. Avenue East, Kalispell, Montana.
Members Present:
James J. Thompson
W. J. Lupton
Ann Smith
Dorothy Garvin
Fran 011endike
John P. Kain
Others Present:
(2) APO Staff Repr.
Steve Petrini
James E. Mohn
Approx. 15 Guests
The Planning Board then discussed the change in status
of Jim Thompson, being that he is moving into the City
jurisdictional area. He felt that he should resign
completely and that way they can appoint a new City
member and Steve advised no, as he stated it was up
to the Board to elect a ninth person. It was pointed
out there were no records available confirming an eleven
member board so now the board is down to the legal number
as required according to Norb Donahue. Steve explained
that the Board was now made up of five city and four
county and what it needed to be was four and four and
that eight was to select the ninth.
Jim Thompson indicated he was seriously considering
just resigning.
Steve stated that in addition to the Darling Zone Change
which was scheduled for the October meeting, there was
also a public hearing scheduled, which will appear in
the paper Friday, a Plan change recommendations that
were the subject of the extra -territorial zoning meeting
which was held on the 11th. of Sept. Ann Smith wished
to know if that needed to be presented to the City Council.
Steve felt that perhaps that should wait until the hearings
on the plan change have been held. Ann agreed.. Steve
stated that this probably would not be ready to go Council
till probably the end of October.
Steve stated also probably the final review on the
redevelopment zone area.
President Lupton called the meeting to order for the
Kalispell City -County Planning Board, following the
Zone Commission portion.
Jim advised that Circle K Addition was not a public
hearing but a final review and comment to forward to
the City Council.
Jim advised that it would be necessary to act upon the
Appleway Drive Plan Amendment prior to Circle K unless
the Board. planned on turning the Circle K Addition down.
Jim Mohn presented the Anderson Subdivision
Tract 4BC, NW4,
Sec. 10, T28N, R22
S of 3 Mile Drive
of.West Valley Dri
34.42 A/18 lots/
1.66 Average lot
Size:
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z ree�sented its location and then proceeded to go Rj
aerie Staff Report.
Jim stated that under Parks the lower or western portic�
Lots 3 to 10 be taken as homeowners park, as shown on
the Staff alternative. This is the area that contains
the irrigations ditch and also some of the flat property
that would be suitable aesthetically for recreational
purposes. The Plan also recommends that a 20' access
be,provided between what would be Lots 8 and 9 on the
amended plan to provide access to the homesites on the
east side of the public road. The primarily objective
of establishing that area as park would be to eventually
serve as equestrian -pedestrian system along the irrigation
ditch and other natural drain systems in the area.
This is a possibility enlight of the continuity of the
land within the area. This irrigation system would
also connect with Flathead County property and also
the Russell Deist Ranch and the Hill subdivision which
are only separated by about a half a mile.
Jim then discussed the road system and indicated that
the road r/w did not accommodate any turn arounds for
emergency vehicles. Jim stated that since Sheepherder
Hill presents an obstacle as far as West Valley Drive
is concerned, with the majority of West Valley Drive
not built to proper width.
Jim stated that as for water rights and any obstruction0
to the natural irrigation ditch, this would be up to
the Attorney's Office to investigate at time of title
report.
Jim upon completion of the Summary Remarks read a letter
from Paul D. Wachholz, dated September 18, 1979 (copy
attached).
Chairman Lupton wished to know if the Board had any
questions to ask of Jim.
The Developer, Mr. Anderson, stated that he would request
that Mr. Putnam, Surveyor, answer on his behalf.
Al Putnam stated he would address the water first, and
that,since they had turned off the Ashley irrigation
ditch off, the ponding that has been occurring in the
two areas,.no longer exists. As for public water supply,
was designed in field to accommodate expensive homes
and the lot size is important. Don't anticipate many
youngsters, as this is usually out of that class range.
With the anticipation of an additional road to the south,
this is being opposed, due that.they do not want through
traffic in the area. Will be a good blacktop road and
will have a cul-de-sac for emergency turnaround but didnot
want traffic flowing through there on a steady basis. O
He stated that in addressing Lots 1 and 2, that would
have to work that out with the Health Dent. as the nondinR
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this Spring was normal. Have no reason to believe that
adequate wells can not serve the area and believe that
if they can't afford to drill the well then can't afford
one of the lots. Want people who want an exclusive
home. _
Have presented it to the [Nest Valley Planning District
and they were well pleased with it and then proceeded
to discuss the size.
Chairman Lupton asked if the Board had any questions. Jim
Thompson said this was laid out in the field and you have
one lot with no access, how do you propose to get to that
one? A triangular lot on the side. Putnam said there is
an access road which is designated primarily a place to
keep a horse and not a building site.
John Kain, the r/w and water system and -stated one of the
purposes of this Board. was to plan for the future, but
someday the limits will be out there and feel 60' dedica-
tion is imperative and the water system also, and would
like to limit headaches and feel that there should be a
community water system. Putnam agreed and said it would
make little difference to the City if it was private wells
or water system because..they would still override that
with their facilities and Lf you would suggest that the
sewers be done now prior to annexation, didn't believe so.
John Kain felt that in planning for the future the water
system should conform to county specifications. The
County specifications do not meet the City requirements,
the pressure size of the pipe, etc.
Steve stated that since 1973 all the City annexation r/w's
have been 60' r/w. Mr. Putnam said this would depend on
the developer, as no way did they want through traffic.
Ann Smith said she understood that the developer preferred
money in lieu of park land. Was preferred.
It was emphasized this was a private road. Jim stated
that as a point of information, he had no objections to a
60' private road and no problem with running the center-
line of the road from the lot lines.
Water.system could be a problem, as Mr. Putnam said
they wanted these lots to develop slowly and each to
have their own facilities. Some would be retired and
stay here only during the summer. John Kain felt there
should be continuity between that and the city's. Didn't
feel they wanted an operator out there to maintain a
water supply to these homes. John Kain wished to prevent
these people from having to spend a chunk of dough when
they are annexed for a water main. Putnam wished to
know if a Covenant could be used saying they will sign
a statement that if in the future they are annexed,
that they would sign an SID or put in a public supply
at their expense. A waiver of right to protest just
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so they are aware of it.
Coca Cola Plant:
Berschi Addn Disc.
(Board was advised West Valley was the fire protection
and closest school is West Valley.
Chairman Lupton called on the audience participation.
Called on the Board for questions.
Fran 011endike questioned the controversy as to the
bog on Lots 1 and 2: Jim said it looks like a bog and
the Sanitarian says it's a bog and Putnam said it looks
like one. Jim Thompson felt that a bit more research
between Staff, developer and Sanitarian as far as what
constitutes a bog and don't believe the Board should
make a decision based upon what the develop wants and
doesn't want to follow the APO recommendation for site
planning and layout or the recommendation of the road
and water system so maybe should table for some
reconsideration of all as to whether there are drainage
problems, higher density as to wells, drainage problems,
doesn't seem to approve in a manner acceptable to the
developer and going against the majority of the
recommendations of the Staff and didn't feel the Board
wished to sit and negotiate all night. Should be some
(middle ground.
Fran felt there were two recommendations. Jim Thompson
felt that he would like to prevent voting on it because
of a conflict in design features and felt that the
developer should justify his solution or else sit down
with the Staff and reach a middle ground and don't believe
the Board would approve it as it is laid out.
Jim Thompson felt there should be some discussion before
a motion to table is placed on board.
Jim Mohn stated he didn't feel there were any real grounds
for denying it and if those two lots were bad, and the
Health Dept. will advise if they are not suitable for
building and Steve stated if they were not suitable,
the Planning Board had the ability to recommend that
they not be part of the plat. Jim Thompson felt that
perhaps that plat be reworked to something more acceptable.
Questioned was what was done with the equistrian situation
and was advised there wasn't one.
John Kain moved that this subdivision be tabled until
the next meeting when the developer and Staff give the
Board something where there is halfway agreement on
the subdivision; seconded by Jim Thompson. Need a more
compatible subdivision desf n.
Motion carried. 6 to 1.
It was felt that this could all be worked out.
There was an extensive discussion once again on the
Bertschi Addn where the Coca Cola Plant Bottling was
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Ashley Hill
Subdivision:
to be built and upon realization of the fact that that
business would not be able to be built there the Board
was advised that Coke would take their plant to Whitefish
along with their payroll and needs as the purpose of
purchasing the land. was for the water and sewer which
was essential. Mr. Brown was advised that this was
not a public hearing and. this is merely a recommendation
and the City Council will vote on it and felt that his
case should be presented to the Council on the 15th.
Ann Smith said she did vote on an RA-2, and this does
not mean that she will necessarily mean that she will
vote that way at the Council meeting after hearing any
additional testimony. Ann Smith stated she would like
to see a copy of the City Council minutes whereby they
granted him the right to put in the bottling plant,
prior to the October meeting. It was stated that Mr.
Gallagher requested that the zoning be held off up until
such a time that they could find a suitable piece of
property and Ann Smith said she would be advised and
was advised that Mr. Gallagher had not yet contacted
the landowner with a new location prospect, over a month
ago, and curious why she had acted without his consent
and going to go along with the zoning. Was advised
that she said she would withhold any zoning until hearing
from him. Ann Smith said she asked that the Bertschi
Add.n be sent back to the Commission for further study,
which has been done and in good conscience and because
December 31, 1979, some action must be taken and must
be presented to the City Council and basically get this
on the Council floor and did withhold it from the 1st
and 2nd reading of the Council rezoning, for a period
of 6 weeks. Apologized for being, out of order but had
just found out about this this evening, but can't make
their motion strictly on Gallagher's recommendation
as he is only head of the RDC. Would furnish the date
of the minutes prior to the meeting.
Jim Mohn was then requested to present the Ashley Hill
Subdivision Staff Report. (copy attached).
Bill Doyle stated that the developer went along with
all the recommendations,except for the 30' equistrian
strip and no problem with leaving that 30' on either
side of the ditch for drainage but as for leaving a
trail for everyone to go through along the back of the
house, if he had a house there wouldn't want someone
riding back there and sure the developer feels the same
way. As for the commercial lots, the developer does
not have anything specific in mind but would like to
keep them commercial. Always the need for a grocery
and surely not a big enterprise. Some of the individuals
that would possibly buy in there might be interested
in something like an art gallery in connection with
their home. Just a thought. John Kain felt this.would
be a continuation of a strip commercial and certainly
wouldn't want that out there.
One landowner who lives out about two miles says there
is nothing out there and if you forget to get gas or
something you have to go back to Kalispell.
Bill, adjacent landowner, lives next to that park area
and concerned as the pond dries up in the summer and
also fills in the fall about next month and then stays
full till about the last of July. What will be done
there and if it is pumped with water it will sub -irrigate
his place next to it. Doyle said he doubted that as
it would be a public park and have public input. Bill
said he did a little work with a backhoe, and it could
be deepened and then hold year around or could be filled.
Being no additional information from the audience Chairman
Lupton addressed the Board and requested their comments.
John Kain indicated he agreed with the Staff as it related
to the two commercial lots being retained as residential.
Hoped that the water system would be carefully considered
and advised that depending on the amount of water would
be the determining factor in how many lots would be
served. Doyle felt that by the time it would be coming
into the City all the specs could be changed. Concerned
about a first class system and go by engineering request.
Then discussed was water rates. Chairman Lupton wondered
whether a waiver of protest could be used. This was
all discussed by Jerry Lipp. Discussed was water pressures
etc.
Questioned was changing the Comp Plan and zoning to
that.
Jim Thompson.moved that the Board recommend approval
of the Ashley Subdivision with all of the recommendations
of the APO Staff with a couple of additional
recommendations that 1.) that the development waive
its right to protest annexation to the City of Kalispell
if that should ever come about, and 2.) that the sub-
division be zoned or that the developer apply for R-1
zoning under the County Comprehensive Zoning Regulations
and that if necessary the Comprehensive Plan be changed
and/or the necessary action be taken to make it conform;
seconded Dorothy Garvin.
Recommended was that the easement be classed as a
maintenance easement. Jim stated the two sections
addressed were maintenance and drainage, but the provision
to allow equistrian-pedestrian use, was to accommodate
everything that Jim envisioned but if everything else
was struck
Does eliminate the two commercial lots. People are
not generally happy with them.
6.
Appleway Drive
Plan Amend.:
The meeting was called back to order with the request
that Jim Mohn present the Appleway Drive, kalispell
Plan Amendment. (per attached)
Jim proceeded to go over the maps explaining the various
zoning for the area.
Jim explained that the property to the east of the Red
Lion was already designated as commercial. He then
indicated that property that was presently in the County
as compared to that in the City, the meandering lines.
IThe question was raised as to effect on taxes, and. Jim
advised that the taxes would not be affected by what
was being done, and the only thing that would effect
the taxes would be what the surrounding properties were
sold for and what it was used for. The landowner indicated
that was what he was looking towards should this be
changed to commercial and was adjacent to Circle K.
Jim said when they came into the city and sold off
the back half and what it was sold for, would probably
effect the tax on his property. He stated that the
,.property lines were off at least five feet and Jim
indicated that was something that would have to be
determined by the County Surveyor. Jim Thompson stated
that every surveyor used his own stake point to survey
from. Never seen so many surveys in so many different
directions. Needs to re resolved. Property owners
should take it up with the County. Has inquired about
it and been after it for over two years but gotten nowhere.
Jim Mohn stated that they have a alternate surveyor
and this year it is Phil Helps of (whitefish.
It was indicated that on the original plan it was
recommended as urban -residential and the white area
was recommended as commercial on the original plan in
1972. Basically changing a small area. That property
adjacent to the Red Lion is already commercial. It
was indicated that although suburban tracts he would
have the ability to sell it as commercial and at that
time whoever purchases it will pay a commercial price
and then immediately began to pay commercial taxes.
Question was whether the residential was then a non-
conforming use and. Jim stated if he was to annex to
Kalispell would have to annex as a commercial zone and
if he wanted to maintain his home it would then be a
non -conforming use there. It was advised that should
his home burn down he can rebuild it and can add to
it with at least 180 day extension period. Can't buy
that land at all for industrial. Ann Smith said that
generally a business or industrial area requires city
water and sewer.
Jim Thompson stated that Circle K has requested annexation
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with a commercial designation and cannot annex as long
as it is a residential use under the Comprehensive Plan,
so need to change the Plan to commercial so they can
be annexed as a commercial designation. It was stated
it just seemed a matter of time till all the rest is
commercial anyway. Ann Smith stated it is more ideally
suited to commercial use due to Roy Stanley Chev, Weismann,
Red Lion, and not the type of property that would be
best used for residential.
John Kain stated that the Pack Addn which is what it
sits on, is all planned for commercial by Pack into
a small business community. This would increase the
value of your property.
Brought up was then the discussion of covering the creek.
John Kain felt that it was a shame that people did not
consider the land use, by turning a location into gravel
or blacktop, covering up a creek, or if there isn't
one make one. Felt that all this type of thing did
was compound the problems, alter the land and some
direction should be taken to protect it.
It was felt that if Appleway Drive was annexed, then
that property was surrounded and it could be taken it
at any time.
Chairman Lupton asked for additional comment. Landowner
was opposed to the land change from residential to
commercial. This landowner has Tract 1E and advised
that he had 20 acres, directly to the west of Circle
K, across Spring Creek and corners with Roy Stanley
and with Pack, undeveloped. There is a residence on
this.
Jim stated the entire idea of the Plan was to outline
basic land uses, and not particularly tie it up with
a straight line.
Chairman Lupton wished to know what the Board wished
to deg? Ann Smith stated that the only piece of property
proposed for annexation was the Circle K and the City
can not act until the Comp. Plan is changed. Jim explained
where the City Limit line was.
The only thing considered for the Plan change is that
area outlined on Map 3 and only the Circle K portion
of that is being considered for annexation.
The Board was advised that some of his pasture was suburban
residential and Ann Smith advised that should he wished
to be annexed to the City he can apply for a different
zone change and it would have to go back to the Board
for a change in the Plan if he wanted something different
from what was recommended.
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Jim's motion was that the Board accept the proposed
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commercial change as proposed on Map 3 as presented
as a recommendation to the Citv and County by resolution;
seconded by Ann Smith: question called. for and motion
carried.
Circle K
Chairman Lupton stated that the next item on the Agenda
Annexation:
was the Circle K annexation which follows up the
previous Comprehensive Plan change as indicated above.
Appd with
Chairman Lupton asked Jim Mohn if there was anything
conditions:
additional that he wished to add.
Jim 14ohn stated he had no idea of conditions that the
Board might want to add.. Steve felt that there should
be some sort of landscape buffer on Appleway should
be added. Jim stated that there are two trees between
them and Appleway on county property. There was nothing
on the southside.,
It was recommended that this be brought in as a B-3,
compatible with what has been already zoned in the City
and it is petitioned as B-3.
Jim Thompson said they would only be recommending the
B-3 zone and it would be up to the Annexation. Committee
to work out all the little idiosyncrasy that they want
as to a curb on Meridian, etc. Steve stated that this
Board had the ability to make those recommendations
as development recommendations. Ann Smith stated that
they were about ready to open and Jim Thompson stated
there were somethings that they should do there to make
it function the way it should, namely curb along Meridian,
otherwise people will go everywhere. It will be a mess.
unless there is some traffic control. If they are are
going to be annexed it should be put in. John Kain,
stated let's do it then. Steve stated you need to make
annexation subject to -. The City must take action
on the Plan change and then action on the annexation.
Ann Smith felt this would go to October 15th. Jim Thompson
wanted to know if they would condition, the annexation?
Chairman Lupton entertained a motion. Jim Thompson
moved that the Board approve the annexation of the Circle
K Addn, No. 104, as requested, with the conditions that
adequate traffic control on their corner be worked out
with the City Streets and Alley and Annexation Committee
so as not to create a traffic hazard on that corner
and that any further conditions that they would wish
to place on them as to improvements of road r/w area,
etc. so that it is compatible with City standards and
annexed as B3; seconded by Ann Smith. John Kain that
half of Appleway be annexed and Jim advised that he
believed the survey had been drawn that way. It was
felt that Jim should state curb and gutter instead of
traffic control.
Steve stated he had a question, Roy Stanley area, 5'
Minutes of:
12-12-79, 7-1079
8-14-79, & 9-4-79
Appd. 8-14-79
Previously Corr.
Req. for Rescind.
of Alt. 3B
for Buffalo Hill
Area:
lof r/w was acriuired on the west side of the street,
provisions were made for a walkway or something on the
west side, on Meridian. Ann felt this might be a little
after the fact, might be difficult to enforce. It was
felt that it should be stated that if.there is an exten5,on
of the 5' r/w on the west side of Meridian, that it
be researched through the Annexation Committee that
it be applied. Jim Thompson indicated that that was
an amendment to his motion. Question called for and
the motion carried..
Steve asked that the Board approve the Minutes as they
keep sidestepping them.
Jim Thompson moved that the Board approve the minutes
of 12-12-78, 7-10-79, 8-14-79 and 9-4-79 and Fran called
attention to the Walt Griffin not being present at the
8-14-79 meeting and these changes were made. The motion
was seconded by Ann Smith: question called for and motion
carried. (Included with Acting as Zoning Commission Min. of
12-12-78)
John Kain felt that because of the recent development
of the public, that this Board acted in haste when they
made the land use change on Buffalo Hill, as Alternate
3B as presented at the Sept. 4, 1979 Public Hearing.
He stated that due to the concern of others and input
from various groups, he would make the motion to rescind
and recommend this rescinding to the City Council that
changing the land use on some 50 acres on Buffalo
that the land concerned remain the same as it was prior,,--."
to Sept. 4 as far as the Comprehensive Plan was.
Chairman Lupton stated that basically Alternate 3B was
- and Steve advised that 3B had a lot of -ramifications
other than just -- Ann Smith requested a second to the
motion. Fran 011endike seconded the motion.
Chairman Lupton questioned the additional 'nigh density.
Steve stated it was more than lust the 55 acres. Ann
stated there was additional andChairmanLupton said
you are asking to rescind the entire motion, instead
of just the high density, which is the problem. Ann
said you would need a whole new plan. Alternate 3B
just changed two things, the rest stayed the same.
High density urban was added to 3B. Steve said they
put part in urban, some in high density, another piece
in urban and the bottom piece in high density urban
from suburban residential to high density urban, from
suburban to urban, and from urban high density to urban
density and suburban to urban and urban to high density
urban and urban to high density urban and from agricultural
into suburban and the other into urban high density
and piece into high density urban, so those are all
changes, including the golf course is a change from
1974 to take this out of suburban and put it into Publi
(See Sept. 4, 1979 Map, Alternate 3B). -�
Ann Smith stated that the cry is all these apartments
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and all this traffic. Steve stated that the area where
the hospital site is currently located and professional
offices are is recommended to the City along with the
zoning for Plan change for high density urban. Ann
said hospital is a conditional use. So the figures
really looked at using all these areas, urban categories
and convert those units, will not develop into apartments
because of the office buildings, even though that high
density category is not going to produce dwelling units.
Steve stated that part of the area has gone into commercial
which is allowable within this particular land use category
so it will not develop into residential units and some
of the residential has been zoned B-2, which is not
going to develop into urban residential units, so tried
to factor some of this stuff out and if its indicated
this way as high density urban it won't have commercial
on it, this will develop as urban residential, so in
Section b, so if you take all the patterns from 2 dupa
to 8 dupa and possibly 4 dupa in those three land use
categories, looking at 1974 plan recommendation for
this area would support 5170 people, in the city -out
of the city ... has that capability. Under this proposal
and because will not develop that way because of the
way they are being used, end up with about 4500 which
is less than what the 74 Plan has. Then it was urban
residential and not high density, so actually in going
with 3B you end up with less population in the area
then if you went with the 74 Plan. Chairman Lupton
said in the 74 Plan they did not factor out the use
either and Jim stated it wasn't there. Steve stated
in the 74 Plan took exactly what was there. Jim Thompson
said since 74 have had hospitals, offices. Chairman
Lupton stated that part of the density downgraded is
because some has gone to the golf course too. The outcry
is right by the hospital. Steve stated the 74 Plan was
2890 to about 4500 people for this section and because
of adding roughly 600 people. 3B is roughly the same.
Ann stated that propaganda is that there will be more
traffic, more density, more taxes. Jim Thompson stated
that by adding more urban it makes it conform with what
is already on the Plan. Steve stated that all it is
being done is bringing the Plan into compliance with
the zoning. This area was zoned outside of the plan.
Jim Thompson stated he didn't understand why the Wildgen
piece was high density and it was because of the increased
traffic volume, increased space, the arterial running
across, etc. immediately adjacent to the property.
Chairman Lupton stated that none of this is a reality
but becoming visible coming to light because of the
Mall. The general consensus was that no one was concerned
about zoning till it became personal. Ann Smith felt
that if a location seems to be questionable about density
usually the high density, multi -family proposal is pushed.
It was felt that the RA-1 has been a salvation and not
a push and you need to provide those areas just in the
city where they areprovided they are all single family
and
would have to be torn down in order to provide some
areas that can be developed that way. There aren't
any.
Ann Smith, as a Councilman, people are realizing that
this is zoned for high density urban and this was all
brought to a head because of the Mall with more people
interested in the Comp. Plan than has been elicited
since its inception. Gets calls all the time. Need
more discussion on the plan change. Don't recommend
that the Board rescind the motion, just need more
discussion. Need to let these people who are concerned
about high density urban come up and talk to the Board
and let you explain it to them. Jim Thompson wanted
to know what the chances were of those people coming
to the meeting? Jim Thompson stated they would come
to the meeting if it was in their backyard, and say
it is a nice idea but not in their backyard. Jim said
that is the way the people were in Parkview Terrace when
they tried to bring in Buffalo Head. Subdivision and
Chairman Lupton said that was human nature and accept
that. Jim Thompson said when you want a general dis-
cussion on an area you won't get ten people to show up.
Jim Thompson said the best thing to do was have Steve
explain the plan but didn't think the City Council under-
stood it. Chairman Lupton said they may be accused of
being indecisive and dealing with public outcry and
perhaps soften it and deal with in a couple of years.
Perhaps should consider dropping back a little in that
immediate area and if they can't understand that the
County and City have already zoned that way then you may-'
have it later down the road.
Steve stated he would rather that the City Council refer
it back for further study and recommendation than change
the mind at this point. Ann Smith said she explained
clearly that her motion to �he City would be to refer
it back for further study.
John Kain stated that in support of that he can either
withdraw or reword his motion but as far as he was
concerned he acted in haste. Jim Thompson said he didn't
think it was a mistake, because it was bringing it into
conformance with the zoning. There was a difference
of opinion. Chairman Lupton felt that he would probably
have problems no matter where he recommended 'nigh density
now that it had surfaced and people realize what is
happening. Jim Thompson felt that when this came up
the Council needed to be made fully aware of those areas
and Steve should explain it to them area by area, stating
this one is Buffalo Head, it is already annexed to the
City and zoned RA-2, this is Mission Village, already
zoned TEA-2 by the County Commissioners and go down that
map and even the area where the hospital is is already
zoned RA-2 by the City Council, so therefore the impact
would not be so significant and don't call it urban
residential, etc. - call it single family, multi -family
and everybody relates to those kind of terms. Ann Smith
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Invited to APO
Mtg 9-26-79:
ee%10-3-79
said the issue of high density versus urban or low density
that became a secondary issue as another tool to fight
anti or pro mall. Never looked at plain land use ... no
matter what you read or see. Jim Thompson said 90%
of that Plan is what the land use is all about. Can
send it back in a better format.
John Kain withdrew his motion and Fran 011endike withdrew
her second. John said he would make a recommendation
to Ann Smith that any reference to Tim Grattons three
acres be immediately stopped as this Board had nothing
to do with that and that is not a viable issue. Felt
this was being used as a precedent setting situation
by the Council. Feel obligated to make a motion to
accept the recommendation, but was advised that she
was not obligated. John Kain felt that perhaps the
media could alert the people as to what high density
and what Alternate 3B really is. Fran questioned whether
they understood what this meant and the people in the
audience said they now understood that.
Jim Mohn advised that the County Planning Board cancelled
their meeting and advised that their entire Board attend
the APO meeting on the 26th. the following night. Advised
that most would be there.
Being no further business the meeting adjourned at 11:06
p.m.
W. J. Lupton, C r.
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