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07-10-79Continuation of: Camelot Tract 5L, Sz of SWk Sec..27, T29N, R21W, PMM., one mile E of LaSalle on the north side of REserve Dr, between Spring Creek & Alpine 41A/70 lots (Denied with Conditions). I i A regular meeting of the Kalispell City —County Planning Board was held Tuesday, July.10, 1979 at 7:30 p.m. in the Courthouse East Community Room, 723 5th. Avenue East, Kalispell, Montana. i Members Present: John Kain Dorothy. Garvin Ray Lybeck W. J. Lupton Ann, Smith James J. Thompson Others Present: (2) APO Staff Repr. Steve Petrini James Mohn 20 Guests President Lupton„called the.meeting of the Board to order at approximately 7:35 p.m. President Lupton indicated that there was considerable discussion on Camelot., and as no decision had been achieved, felt that Jim should refresh all present. Jim stated that for reference the minutes could be used butthathe would briefly summarize what had happened at the previous meeting after the presentation. Jim;gave a brief description of the location. He explained that the Evergreen water system was proposed to serve the development and sewage by means of individual systems, electricity from REA .�tnd natural gas from MPC, telephone from NTS and cable TV from Teleprompter. Jim stated there was no zoning on or adjacent to the site. The Environmental Assessment indicated the site was idle pasture, however comments at -the last meeting indicated the site is right now a barley stand. Only other comments that are worthy is the discussion on,-park.that took place both at last meeting and at last months Park Board meeting. ..As submitted now, the development calls for a dedication of.1.86.Acres, which includes the site adjacent to Spring Creek and a 10' dedication of parkland along the north side of East Reserve._Drive. During discussion with Park Board, the recommendation -was that the whole park dedication of.3..5 Acres be taken somewhere on the site. The,101. strips along Reserve beset aside for future road -r/w not designated as park. Fire and police protection with police available from Sheriffs department..and fire..from Evergreen Volunteer Fire Dept. As far as timber the site contains 41 Acre with soil capability from Class IV to VI..in an non -irrigated state and a Class III to VI.when irrigation is -applied. Surrounding uses are agriculture to the north, suburban agricultural use to west, large agricultural tract to south and residential tracts to the east. This area was designated as,.agricultural—silvicultural in the Comp Plan and immediately west of the project site was the area that this.Board:reviewed;some..months ago and authorized and recommended and. Comp...Plan.amendment to allow residential development -up to 2 units per acre up to the center line of Spring Creek. That amendment recently has been approved by both County Commissioners.and_.Kalispell Ci,ty..Council. Basis of.need,,Staff comments: Basis for need of this type of 1. development is not readily visible''referencing the Silver Shadows Subdiv. which has d ots of similar characteristics located approximately 1/2'mile' west of the site. King's Loop development which is progressing approximately one mile away and Thompson Ranchettes which is located approximately mile and a quarter nF of. the site and recently approved development called Grandview originally reviewed as Sunrise Addition. As far as design evaluation the Staff made these comments, given the physical limitations of the site the design does appear to be satisfactory however the Plan gives little consideration to total topography and drainage and grade system seems to be the simplest approach. Plan does not provide access to two parcels which appear to be landlocked, one to the east and another one below, understand under one ownership but two separate parcels. The design does not provide any northerly extension along the line other than already dedicated to the county as outlying land. The Summary comments, see attached. Jim then ran through the comments from last months meeting. A statement was made at the meeting that the ground water, elevation -appeared to be at'a depth`of approximately 2918 sea level which according Eo individual would place any lots below an elevation of 2922 beyond the safe limits of development.Shaded those areas in orange which would have to be reexamined to maintain the 'required ground water separations .from the disposal field. Other comments from the residents included the following: Concern was noted stating"that portions of the site along Spri� Creek were flooded in 1964, however the site shows no portion delineated on the flood 'plain maps dealing with the 100 yr. flood elevation. There was a correction made to the environmental assessment Staff Report stating that 'current use of the site is a barley stand and is being irrigated. Another individual questioned the availability of electrical service knowing that problems had developed in this area during the past winter and questioned the limitations -of service with the addition of 70 new homes. Concern with regards to traffic on Reserve and Helena Flats was brought up knowing the condition of Spring Creek Bridge, being question— able and increased demand of more traffic on that bridge. Concern was noted regarding conflicts with traffic both on Reserve and Helena Flats Rd because of the narrow service and number of school children utilizing that road to Helena Flats School. Another comment dealt with limited snow removal services over the last two years and indicated if that same kind of service was continued 'it would create problems irregardless of this proposal. Concerning agricultural uses in the vicinity, conflicts with livestock may exist or may come to exist on property west of the site and also brought out that the large tract immediately north is a very productive agricultural unit. Concern was voiced with regards to the protective covenants particularly whether the development iaould cater to mobile homes. 0 Comments from Flathead-208 Project, dated Jul 6, 1979, attached. Y Jim indicated the surveyor and developer were present to answer 4F Ray Lybeck questioned whether the roads would stay private? Jim said he was under the impression they would be deeded roads to the county, 60' r/w (President Lupton requested that the comments be kept relevant and to the.point., The developer said would bring the project 10 to 15 lots less than what was planned for. Jerry Lipp, Consultant, Doyle, stated they dug 9 test holes throughout the development on May 5, but water peaked at June 1 from May 31. Had a serious problem with what 208 is saying and what he is saying. Monitoring these weekly, watched the peak and watched it go down, the contour interval 2922 that water would be higher than 6' which they will concede, but for some reason losing two more feet going up to 2924, can't buy that at all, can be off 2" but not 2_'. That.s a lot of water. Can't agree with this report, depends on how.the elevations were shot. The SCS gave space elevations at each well, gave the elevation of'the top of the casing that was being measured from. Tied into the original benchmarks in Evergreen, surveyed themselves. Jerry said anything below 2922 is unusable. Felt that there was a topographic difference to start with, the wells are at least.500 ft. from the area in question and the base elevation at the closest well is probably 2930.24, so in any case, ground water tends to follow the contour estimating ground water at some distance from the site, actually 15' to topographic difference. Have to estimate as doesn't have an onsite well to go'to. Lipp said he had told Tomkinson this would be a problem and would need, to relate exactly the material at hand, so this is no estimate, this is measured. Jerry Lipp, Mark Spratt and the developer then bantered back and forth' -on the porosity of the soils and capabilities, extent of areas, irrigation which raises the height of the water and it was stated that any affluents that you load that soil with certainly would be flushed out of, the area. A gentleman that has lived on Spring Creek the'last 10 years down the river the 3 — 4 miles, Spring Creek peaks out close to June and continues after that and never seen it rise. Lipp wanted to know if it were possible to receive copies of letters that come out of the government agency, such as 208, before he comes to a.meeting and is surprised. Wanted to know if that were possible? Jim indicated that he had not had time to get it out. Pres. Lupton asked that that be an official request. — Wanted to know if the 208 study was completed? Was advised that this particular project was 2/3rds completed, but not completed, 700' on one side and 500' on the other. The need for lots was questioned. As an example fishing poles on a rack because they aren't all sold yet, the same applies to lots as people want different types and different places and don't see that we should stop subdividing land until all the lots are sold. 'The :school board hasn't said a word, so don't see the complaint there. Traffic is going to be created no matter where you put it. Indicated it was hard to choose a piece of ground when there is only so much land for sale. Norm Davis, member of the school board, said it depended on what they proposed, whether trailors, houses, or just what, 70 homes with an average of'2 children per home, that would hurt the district, there is no way that could be handled, and bonded to capacity now. Can't build on and already have two new additions which will bring 60 —70 kids. Traffic increase is concern. .Have new school but not far;from being full again. Tom Sands, basis of need', Kings Loop sold out, Silver Shadows and a third', are sold and others also but should not bring up no need when people are looking for land closer to town and work. Felt that'the main concern of the Board should be whether we have housing or mobile homes and talking a different cliental. Considering modular homes and hard to figure what a double wide could be considered this as it does have an axle to get there. Tax base could be the same. Discussed was what constituted a mobile home and placement. Prices of mobile homes tan be comparable to stick houses of approximately $30,000, not a mobile but placed on permanent foundation, nothing under 22 feet. Covenants on Silver Shadow,' are less than that. U Questioned was impact on school. Felt there would be an impact of 12 to 13 homes per year. Also stated that it undoubtedly would be one child per three homes for that school and this is calculated in a trailor court which people say is full of kids. Mr. Schaffer, questioned this statement. Will this be a family mobile home court or an adult only court. It was stated that .the last time he,took a count, not talking about a mobile home court, this is a subdivision. These lots are for sale, not for rent. These homes will be put there and no moved. Reference to impact on schools, that the current accrued subdivisions within that school district forecasted a capacity enrollment without taking this one. Jim said that with the existing improved and pending developments in Helena Flats district from those 'developments saying they stay the same will be at 250, which he understands is accredited capacity. The Comp Plan does not call for residential for this area. It was felt that with more'homes there would be more animals, such as dogs to,enfringe on the agricultural community. Bill Wheeler, that the college enrollment is down and some go in and some go out so don't think'this is a real problem, most don't have that many school age children to start with. r President Lupton felt it was owed to the community to have all concerns voiced. Developer felt that it concerned him on who owned the ground, has some,actual cost figures and his cost per acre in the last four to five years has been $88.30 which can be broken down and average yield has been 55 bushels per acre, price was $303.50 per hundred which gave him a net income of $92.40, a profit of $4.10 per acre, which does not include depreciation or interest on the investment or original co,st'of the ground. Can we continue to tell the man to farm it? Close the public input and open the hearing for discussion by membeis of the board. John Kain was concerned with the. septic problems in the area, ground water and type of soils. Feel that the Board would be adding.to a serious problem.right now. Ann Smith questioned whether this water would drain down and affect the homes that were there. This is part of what the 208 drainage problem and it was indicated what Jerry'Lipp was finding fault with, questioning ground water levels. Dorothy Garvin felt that the need was premature at this time. Also upset by taking out more agriculture in favor of subdivisions President Lupton wished to know how one would address the validity of the Comprehensive Plan? Did it need changing or would it be considered accurate as it stands. Dorothy Garvin felt that if you were talking about Class IV and/or irrigated lands, didn't know whether the plan addressed this or not. Ray Lybeck agreed with John Kain and Dorothy Garvin's statements and think that in addition didn't think the fact should be over— looked of what the subdivion .does to surrounding agricultural land. The vandalism and damage to crops due to subdivisions, and attempted to talk to people, put up signs, which are torn down as fast as put up. Agriculture and subdivisions just don't mix. Not talking about small damage. Had them into our irrigation pumps, into the controls, andhad a tractor left over night and they let the air out of tires, broke the valve stems, broke the -controls, scattered parts, and real hard time trying to"farm next to them. If you put livestock out there, the dogs raise. The effects on agricultural land and felt the plan is valid for this area. Jim Thompson stated he couldn't add much but would have to go along with one everyone had said; agriculture, basis for needs, pollution,'and the fact that the Board had just reviewed the Comp. Plan for that area. At this point said it was as far as the Board wanted to go and couldn't say that the Comp Plan is old in that area, considered.recently, and based on that should be essentially deny the request at this time. Questioned was why the Board would not consider going all the way to Helena Flats, because the water department considers going that far and as long as it will have city water it seems like( a good piece of ground ,to subdivide. Agreed that farmland and — subdivisions did not mix but there had to be a border some place. .President Lupton stated that considerations of a Comp Plan change are many-, and.any time a change is considered it is quite extensive,, zoning intentions, growth patterns, SCS comments, soils classifications, Staff and public input, water systems, and so impacts on everything and difficult to determine what is wrong or right for a community. ,This Board did address the Comp Plan very recently for this area.. Ann Smith stated that she appreciated the fact that it was difficult for a person to find a place to live in the '40,000 bracket. Also the gentleman advised that the County completely controlled whether the septic and water could go in so that was lin material. President Ficken said the water was not academic, in as much as we have always had a county sanitarian and state department of health an.d that this was.their ball game, but the Board is in the middle of listening to the public as the county has requested federal money and the county has asked people to do a study, and the Board was,full hardy in not beginning to address it. Jerry Lipp stated he did not say that the 208 studies were wrOF but was questioning their means of arriving at the elevations." President,.Lupton said,the.Board understood that. They contend that.there is.a water problem, which is no secret and is defined, onsite and do believe the department of health will see his data is correct. President Lupton stated he didn't think that the Board had any problems with discrepancies between the 208 and test wells and didn't feel that was the big issue, but the need to use the State Dept. of Health and County Sanitarian for legal endorsement for any septic tank system and also the moral obligation to listen to the.208 Flathead Drainage Staff in as much as they are addressing something that should have been addressed and probably never was addressed and that is contamination of water in the Flathead Drainage system. More far reaching than discrepancies. John Kain concurred and said a two foot discrepancy was not the key point. Jerry stated he was disturbed to see only 3/4 of it colored brown. Felt that there was no basis to believe that the 208 Staff would manipulate or be biased for any reason, but perhaps biased to the point,whereby they are professionals in water quality and when dealing like to look out for it, perhaps wanting things to be too pure. , Jerry felt that the map presented was entirely too much, if th�,_) 4• Developers Diversified Discussion: want to present their study and say"that anything below 24 to the dot is not. Jim felt that there should be no need to haggle over'a 2' differential, as it probably should be 41, that would Jim Thompson said it was pretty hard to draw a thin line 6' above high water and say that's it. Jim Thompson moved to recommend denial of the preliminary plat of Camelot Estates for the following reasons: 1. adverse effects, loss of agriculture land and effects on surrounding lands; 2. basis of need is'hard to establish, however there are sufficient subdivisions on the books, whether they are marketing or not to satisfy current demands; 3. -adverse effects on public health and safety as it pertains increased pollution of the shallow acquifer in the Evergreen Area, as presented; 4. public safety as it pertains to the road access as it pertains to schools; 5. does not -comply with the Comprehensive Plan; seconded by John Kain Question' was called for and the motion carried unanimously. President Lupton indicated there would be a letter from the Board to the Board of County Commissioners. Advise thats this Board was only a recommending body. John Kain indicated that he took exception to Chris Hunters letter Paragraph 2", dated July 6, 1979, where he indicates sthat the Board has not become involved in the facility planning. John Kain said that Walt Griffin who is leaving is very involved and that Ann who is taking his place will be and he himself is also involved. Felt that there are only so many meetings that a person can attend and didn't care`for the chastisement. President Lupton stated he did not feel affended too much as the Board was not ever asked to participate. Dorothy Garvin stated that there were 2 to 3 seminars that were held and she had participated in them. The Attorney, city, also participated. Was advised that Chris had resigned.' Mark Spratt advised that it looked as though they would be hiring a new director and he had too many projects in process. The life span of the director of the water study was discussed, ranging from 2 to 32 yrs. Steve advised that the project was started in 1975. President Lupton felt that 'the meeting should be turned over to a discussion of Developer's Diversified. Two letters attached pertaining to the proposed Mall. There was a lapse in the tape. The first comments were by Norb Donahue who stated to follow the orders of the governing bodies of which they were a part and subordinate and uphold the mandate to hold a public hearing and make a decision as'to whether or not they felt that there should be a change in the Comprehensive Plan. Not consider' this as a specific site plan in the context that they could approve or disapprove a site plan, looking at the Comprehensive Plan as to whether this will'be a commercial area, continue to be high density, medium or low density residential or whatever it is in the Comp. Plan and that is the only thing before them. Stick with the land use decision. I Jim Thompson stated that what was requested was enough information to show what this would do to the land use up there, and then be able to look at all the surrounding effects this could have and make a decision. It was felt that then based upon their decision the City Council does decide to amend it's Comp Plan, at this time the City and Developer will be going through the process of whether there is. adequate landscaping, is there access, is there proper access and all -the -other items and.the decisions and evaluations will beat that point in time. They are going to consider this but not until the annexation. Steve was questioned concerning the classification of the ground. It is proven residential and there maybe a piece in the back but in a residential category, anywhere from 2.1 to 40.d.u.p.a. Most is 8.0 d.u.p.a. Ray Lybeck stated he didn't feel there was any decision to make or any choice and if they request the hearing they are mandated by law within a -certain time. Question is mute. Steve said he would, just like to. show them some of the information they did get not to sit down and review it. Jim Thompson said that based on this information the Staff needed to take a serious look at this acreage but how it effects the entire area as it relates to traffic, potential spin-off problems, as the hospital, etc., is one discussing 5& acres or looking at 200 acres because that will have an impact all the way down Hwy 93'all the way to Idaho even on, the professional neighborhood including on Meridian. All sorts of suppositions were presented and it was indicated .that the area would have to be completely studied to check wha type of ,impact; the Mall will have, on the entire area. Feel that the Staff better have enough time to produce an adequate report. John Kain.was advised that one would have to advertise 10 days prior to.the hearing. It was encouraged that the public hearing be held and would appreciate. it as promptly as possible. President Lupton wished to know if it was the consensus of the Board that they.schedule a public hearing to consider a change in the Comprehensive Plan as soon as possible? Jim Thompson said it should be scheduled but the Staff should be given adequate time to give a presentation to the Board on this: particular 50 acre parcel plus the surrounding 150 acres, which has been looked at and which has been asked for and always been piece mealed. The project has not been sneaked up on the Staff, what has not been.there has been the architectural drawings which are more geared to impacts on the immediate neighborhood and on city services rather than on 150 to 200 acres. Jim Thompson felt it was the traffic flow that, would impact the other areas. President Lupton asked Steve when he could have a thorough Staf UA Traffic Problems as a Outcome of Subdivisions: Report prepared and ready for public hearing. Steve wanted to know if they want to review the Staff Report before the public hearing. Didn't feel it was necessary to go over it at a meeting but should'have it available to read prior to the hearing. Questioned was the procedure with an attempt to operate with enough time to allow all to go over it. Jim felt there should be some consideration given to delinating the boundaries that the Plan change would represent. Requesting the Staff to -come back and make a recommendation to this Board, for their.consideration, for a change in Comp. Plan to be specific'and delinate some areas rather than just change it. Dorothy Garvin wished to know if the Board would make it's decision at the hearing or would it come back to a group like this for the final decision. Jim Thompson didn't feel it need be at the.hearing, if there was time it could be discussed but if not come back toyanother meeting. President Lupton felt that it should be conducted like all hearings and if it was necessary to table it for further thought but don't know that it would be necessary to adjourn and take up a meeting later. John Kain felt he would like to review the minutes first. President Lupton felt it was clear cut and without hastles there would be no problems. John Kain didn't feel he wanted to be locked into making a decision that night. President Lupton said a scheduled hearing has never been locked into that Go into the meeting with an open mind, attack it aggressively, and if it.takes more time that's.what it takes. John stated.it. should be assertively. It was felt i't should be in a larger meeting room and not on a regular night. The high school was suggested. John Kain felt it should be the high, school. Steve said the Large Lecture room should hold around 150 people. Steve said.it was necessary,that he have at least three weeks to prepare all the necessary data. It was felt that this would probably take it to the first Tuesday in August, (7th.) It was generally.agreed this was. a good date and the Staff would advise all where and when, including Dan Johns. Steve asked Dan Johns if he needed to notify anyone else besides him. He said no, Ithat would do it. A gentleman got up and said he had some problems and that was as it related to subdivisions and the pedestrian —bicycle, children and with the accommodations with more cars but have a terrible situation with pedestrians,and;'bicycles and drafted up a letter which'he passed out and that the Board seriously consider the effects and consider the bicycle and pedestrian in these subdivisions and if necessary make accommodations for them before the subdivisions are approved. Nobody is doing anything about the problem. He indicated this was briefly discussed and then passed over." John Kain said it should go to the City Council and County Commissioners.' President Lupton indicated all these types of problems have always been discussed at all meetings and WJ that one does not build schools without the children already being there nor does one, put in roads until there are homes there. Just by the nature of things many of these problems can not be addressed at this level, unless the governing bodies completer reorganize the approach. Don't know how they can address sidew -Ik and bicycle areas and roads. Land use is hard enough. Just writ= ing a letter does not mean it can be addressed effectively. Gentleman felt that perhaps there should be a rider attached to the subdivision,that would address this problem. He then discussed at some length the problems with approach applications which were approved prior to a development being approved and how one could alleviate all the problems associated with traffic and said this gets.to be a problem. It was felt that something should be worked out. Tom Barnard said he had a big problem with all this. He said that the TAC committee.drafted a pretty responsive letter. John Kain stated that the Flathead' Safety Council did also. It was felt that any problem that could be alleviated would be a big help and•thanked him for all the support. Kalispell Redev,. The meeting then was opened for a discussion on the Redevelopment Program: Plan. Steve felt that the Board should take some action on the Plan before it goes to City Council unless a special meeting will take place prior to the public hearing. Steve passed out some corrections, some are word corrections and in several cases change in the map from when this, was printed. Could go to them point by point. One of the major changes is the Map on Pg. 7 which C and basically what is being recommended is that the railroad crossing no longer places as part of the Plan for 1st Ave E and that lst Avenue .EN from the railroad r/w north to Idaho be also taken off. The one—way will only stay as far as Center Street and then curve back around to Main St. Steve said while he was gone there was a meeting with Burlington Northern, Hwy Dept., KDC and after the. discussion the TAC committee sent a recommendation that the improved project scheduled for letting this fall 1st Ave EN north to Idaho came off the project priority list and the storm —street project no longer be on the priority list and the project be.eleminated. At leasts for the time being it was the general discussion that that crossing be eleminated. John Kain questioned Maps D & E where he showed the one way traffic on both lst Avenues, all the way down.and Map E where both 1st Avenues auto by—pass... thought that would be deleted. Dave prepared this and it. doesn't show on the list. Steve said was is proposed is to eliminate 'Center St. north and 1st Avenue East.. That was all that was proposed to eliminate. John Kain said it was a discussion just to get the words auto by—pass off of there 'and the one way cuplet will be in the core area. Steve said they would call the top the interloop because there is an outerloop identified on 5th. Avenue West, called the downtown artery to local access. The key laterial routes were changed to cross—town routes, the secondary laterial routes were chang/ p to,local access and secondary lateral to local access. Also i: Pg 13 that area for a half block either side of Main St. to come out of the classification extensively residential to office so ,that we would place that area from 5th. South to 12th., half block either side of Main St in the office category rather than the residential category as the ma]/©ow shows. That was another 1979-80 Budget (Proposed) Approved for $1,917. map,change and some text changes. The map nonemclature was added. John said on the one way all the way down to 12th and Center. Steve.said you can do the one way system on a short and long range program, doing 5th. on a short range and 12th and all the way to US 93 and south on a long range and don't particularly see the advantage to the people on the south other than they don't want any more traffic than now. The streets are already on the City's arterial system. The improvements will be made to that street as a two way street and more detrimental than if improvements were made on the basis of a one—way. It would save the boulevard trees but you sure could handle a lot more traffic as a one way with existing paved surface than trying to convert four lanes two way. Kain said his only thought was to selling this. Sure the people would object and there is a meeting tonight and they don't one way and save the trees, so some will be for and.others against. Have to be..looked at it by the Council. Wait and see what comes out of the public hearing on the 23rd. The Planning.Board has to make a recommendation according to the Urban renewal concepts and as long as you make it prior to the public hearing. Steve advised they would not have a hearing prior to the public hearing unless they have a special hearing. Jim Thompson moved that the changes as indicated in the Redevelop. Plan be forwarded to the City Council as a Board recommendation, John Kain seconded; President Lupton said it had been moved and seconded that the Board adopt and recommend to the City Council with the changes as indicated plus the change in the nonemclature of the arterial system, and change on either side of Main St. from 5th. to 12 th. from residential classification to professional classification. Question called for and motion carried. Jim Thompson said the entire plan is on slides with a lot more, see conditions, how to redevelop and felt that 30 minutes should do it. It will be shown at a public hearing. John Kain felt that perhaps they, could brown bag it and see it at noon some day. Steve stated that there was roughly $1,917 that is unexpended in the last.year's Budget that is in your account which is what you have been doing in the past. If you want to add to request a levy. Didn't spend any last year. Budgeted $1417 under a general category of maintenani e and $500 in reserve account. This can not switch to any other account until you end up spending it, so if'you budget until you spend it all, then you would be faced with a levy. Steve advised that Norb had asked him to participate in publication costs on legal notices. He wanted that done,through the City's budget with this Board Acting as the Zoning Commission. Jim Mohn said that this Board as a Zoning Commission could apply to the city budget to accommodate those same items. John Ka -in wanted to know,if they were going to do anything about hiring,a secretary. Jim stated that as often as they met they should. Jim Thompson wanted to know if they had a secretary available: Steve said there -was a Secretariat Service. John Kain.felt there should be a minimum of $2,000 clerical. It w� also stated that after the rezoning that perhaps they would be doing the jurisdictional area. Steve said'right now they had a lot of Boards they were taking minutes for and when they finish with the city they will no longer be associated with that process and the City Zoning Administrator will be handling that so'that our Office won't be involved in minutes etc for zoning. If you function as a planning board for two meetings a'month, you will finally catch up. Jim Thompson then indicated the budget should be left the same. If we keep as is fine but if start to go into some special stuff we'll have problems. We were in'pretty good shape until we started all these hearings. Every meeting is from 2 to 5 hrs. Steve said that prior to the APO Kalispell had a working budget . and hired consultants and some Staff and Columbia Falls had her own, and Whitefish did her thing and since the APO none of the three Cities have levied any funds since that time. Each carried a balance, this Board's someplace around $2,600. Haven't spent any more than $200 in any one fiscal year. President Lupton felt that perhaps Kalispell should throw all her money into the APO budget all into one big pot. Steve said the only'problem with that is if there is a meeting your Board would like to'attend someplace and wanted to send a0 member, you couldn't pay'for it out of our maintenance operation budget. President Lupton'wanted to know how they could transfer this and Steve said they could write an Kalispell warrant out and make the APO a recipient of the warrant and Staff would simply deposit it to our account as income. A travel claim comes from the Kalispell budget, so maintaining and it allows the money to sit there. Columbia Falls took their money out and invested it in time certificates. They have about $8,000. The Board then discussed what they could do with the money. By investing they could get enough interest to almost pay their expenses. Ann Smith felt perhaps it could draw the 8% interest being invested in the Whitefish Credit Union and it could be withdrawn at any time. Jim Thompson moved that the Budget be adopted for $1,917 for the coming year; seconded by Ann Smith: motion carried. Jim Mohn'said he handed out a two page document entitled Evergreen Ground Water Study and'Fact Sheet. Would like to have you take it home and study it and Mark has some maps support this and s) rather graphically the things being discussed regarding problen, in Evergreen with regard to urbanization and suburbanization in 11 that area and this will culminate into some sort of policy statement. Mark said this would be followed up within the next two weeks. Some recommendations as to what to do with the information. Jim said perhaps at the next meeting or sometime in August. John Kain said the proposal is very well put together and it will not surprise him at all to see a moratorium out there. City Council Jim said next correspondence dealt with City Council approval & Mayor (Amendments of several amendments and not sure of which ones. (see letter Letter) of July 5, 1979 attached). Steve read the letter. Steve explained that some of the problem involved the motions that were adopted as Resolutions which were not numbered or dated and have now gone back in order to identify the resolutions. Also noted under Dev. Div. portion: Steve read a response from the Flathead County Attorney's to a request on behalf of the Board posing the questions concerning the Developer's Diversified proposal as it related to subdivision regulations. (copy attached). 3eing no additional business to come before the Board the meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m. . J. Lupton, Pres. ee/8-27-79 /19.