01-11-00KALISPELL CITY -COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES OF MEETING
JANUARY 11, 2000
CALL TO ORDER AND Jean Johnson called the meeting to order at approximately 7:07
ROLL CALL p.m. Members present were: Jean Johnson, Rob Heinecke, Greg
Stevens, Brian Sipe, Don Garberg, Don Mann, Don Hines,
Randy Ek and Bill Rice. Narda Wilson represented the Flathead
Regional Development Office. There were approximately 9
people in the audience.
SEATING OF NEW Randy Ek was welcomed to the board.
MEMBER
ELECTION OF Garberg nominated Jean Johnson for President. On a vote by
OFFICERS acclamation Johnson was elected President.
Sipe nominated Stevens for Vice President. On a vote by
acclamation Stevens was elected Vice President.
ELECTION OF MEMBER Garberg nominated Bill Rice for Member -at -Large and Heinecke
AT LARGE nominated Dewey Swank. On a roll call vote six members voted
for Rice and one voted for Swank. Bill Rice was elected.
Garberg moved and Hines seconded to forward the member -at-
O large selection to the City Council and the County
Commissioners for confirmation, and to recommend that the
member -at -large seat be changed to a two-year term. On a vote
by acclamation the motion passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES On a motion by Mann and seconded by Heinecke the minutes of
the meeting of December 14, 1999 were approved unanimously,
as corrected, amend Page 16 to include names of voting
members.
HI -NOON PETROLEUM A conditional use permit request by Hi -Noon Petroleum to allow
CONDITIONAL USE a bar and casino in an existing building at the northeast corner
PERMIT of Highway 93 South and First Avenue East on property zoned
B-2.
STAFF REPORT Wilson gave a presentation on staff report KCU-99-11 in which
staff recommends that the conditional use permit be approved
subject to conditions. Wilson stated that the subject property is
within a commercially zoned area. She explained that the
application does not meet the parking requirements for a retail
convenience store, which is the same as for a bar/casino.
Therefore the parking will have to be brought into substantial
conformance with the zoning. Wilson explained that there could
C� be conflicts with the three accesses onto the property. There is
no place for landscaping on this site. The size of the building
and the hours of operation will not change, and the impacts to
the neighborhood would generally be limited. The staff is
recommending that the application be recommended for
approval subject to the conditions to come into compliance with
the regulations prior to the issuance of the building permit for
remodeling. Staff also recommends that the board formally
encourage the City Council to continue to try and resolve the
issue of casino regulations so there is consistent treatment of
these types of uses.
Heinecke asked about the setback and it was explained that the
shed falls substantially within the setback, and that the project
does have considerable problems with setbacks. This lot is
limited by its size and configuration and so there is limited
development potential.
Johnson stated that this is a non -conforming structure.
Wilson stated that the building is not being expanded, and a
casino is a conditionally permitted use. The zoning doesn't
prohibit a change in the use of a non -conforming building. They
could make changes to the structure as long as there is no
change to the footprint of the building. They can change the use
of the building as long as it complies with zoning. Staff is
recommending that the application be approved if they comply
with the zoning regulations.
0 PUBLIC HEARING. The public hearing was opened to those who wished to speak on
the application.
PROPONENTS Chris Goodman, with Hi -Noon Petroleum, spoke in favor of the
application stating that the lot is extremely difficult and they are
unable to expand the building in any way. The company is
negotiating with the State to allow for more parking through
some means. The company wants to close off one of the
accesses and will be working with the State right-of-way agent
on that provision. He is asking that the board recommend
approval to allow the company to continue in the process. They
are in agreement with the conditions as presented by staff. He
stated that the company believes that this is a commercial area
and is very appropriate for this type of use.
OPPONENTS Doug Scarff spoke against the application stating that the
neighborhood has had 98 calls for service in that 1/2 block area,
the amount of foot traffic is phenomenal and he does not think
that a bar/ casino is the best use of this property.
Dennis O'Boyle spoke against the application stating that he has
resided in the neighborhood a long time and he thinks this use
is a turn to the negative side. He stated that Independence
House is within the area and this has increased the traffic
considerably. He stated that there are enough of these types of
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establishments in this neighborhood. There are a lot of
negatives with the Highway 93 access problems, parking
problems, and the non -conforming structure. He does not want
n to see this application approved.
No one else wished to speak and the public hearing was closed.
BOARD DISCUSSION Heinecke asked what was going to happen with the shed and
Goodman explained that the shed would probably be removed so
that they could meet the parking requirements.
Mann asked and Goodman answered that the gas pumps would
be left at this time and if the casino works out then they may be
removed. Goodman explained that the convenience store and
gas business is becoming difficult and the company has to look
at other uses in order to stay alive.
Johnson asked and Goodman answered that the company is
negotiating with the State to give them the corner of the property
in exchange for parking. He explained that parking would be
dependent on those negotiations. He explained that the
company wished to work with the board and the public in
mitigating their concerns. The company did not want to expend
the money for an engineered plan until they knew if a
bar/casino would be allowed. The applicants are requesting
that the board recommend approval based on meeting the
conditions as listed in the report.
Wilson explained that the applicant would have to demonstrate
compliance with the regulations and the conditions before the
permit would be issued.
The board discussed the neighbors' issues about the number of
casinos in the area. Wilson explained that it is in the scope of
the local government to set performance standards that would
limit where casinos are within the community. But that there is
nothing in place at this time in Kalispell.
Stevens stated that this proposal does fit within the zoning, and
it may be better to corral these businesses together in one area.
He thinks that there is an advantage to having these businesses
in one area.
Garberg stated that the problem with so many in one area is
that there isn't enough parking.
Stevens stated that what the board would be approving is
limited to the applicant meeting the parking requirements.
Johnson stated that the applicant has a responsibility to
demonstrate that they can meet the parking before they
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recommend approval. He cannot see that they will be able to
meet that parking. He stated that he doesn't want to have the
board approve something that cannot happen, and he cannot
see where this could happen.
The applicant stated that the hardest part of the casino issue is
the casino not the parking. They are seeking the use with the
condition that they provide parking that meets the
requirements. The company can put the money out to meet
those requirements if the board is in agreement with the use,
and it would not be feasible if the board does not want the use.
Hines stated that allowing parking at Rosauers would cause foot
traffic and should not be considered.
Garberg stated that it is hard for him to support something that
he cannot see as going forward.
Heinecke stated that the regulations for a conditional use permit
require that the applicant demonstrate that the parking can be
met. He also has a problem with allowing expansion of the uses
of a non -conforming structure.
Goodman stated that the company would be willing to have the
board table or continue this until the next meeting to allow them
time to show that they can meet the requirements.
C) Garberg stated that even if they could find 24 parking spaces it
is still changing the use and it will aggravate an already difficult
situation.
Wilson explained that if the application were tabled any new
information would be forwarded to the board. The formal public
hearing has been closed but the board could allow public
comment for their consideration at the next meeting.
MOTION Stevens moved and Ek seconded to table this application to the
next meeting. On a roll call vote the motion tied on a vote of
four in favor and four opposed.
Stevens asked how extensive the findings would have to be
amended in order to deny the application and Wilson explained
that they could use the findings within the report.
Garberg moved and Mann seconded to recommend denial of the
application noting items one and two of the staff findings as
their reasons for denial. On a roll call vote: Heinecke, Stevens,
Garberg, Mann, Sipe, and Johnson voted Aye. Ek voted No.
The motion to deny the conditional use permit passed on a vote
of seven in favor and one opposed.
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CONNORS, DAY RINKE A zone change request by Connors, Day Rinke and Miscampbell
AND MISCAMPBELL from R-1 to R-2 on approximately two acres in the Evergreen
ZONE CHANGE and Vicinity Zoning District.
STAFF REPORT Narda Wilson gave a presentation on staff report FZC-99-19 in
which staff recommends that the zone change from R-1 to R-2
be approved. Wilson stated that there is six dwellings located on
this these properties currently. This zone change would not
affect the density of the area. There would be no change in use
or density by the zone change.
PUBLIC HEARING The public hearing was opened to those who wished to speak on
the application.
PROPONENTS Donald Connors spoke in favor of the application and stated
that he is available for questions.
No one else wished to speak and the public hearing was closed.
BOARD DISCUSSION Heinecke asked about the hardship and Wilson explained that
the hardship precipitated the zone change.
Stevens asked what the applicant has spent and it was
explained that he had spent $1,650.00 so far on this project.
MOTION Stevens moved and Hines seconded to adopt staff report FZC-
99-19 as findings of fact and based on these findings
recommend approval of the zone change from R-1 to R-2. On a
roll call vote the motion passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS: Preliminary plat for Kelsey Subdivision tabled at the December
KELSEY SUBDIVISION 18, 1999 meeting. This is a request by Andrew Farris for
PRELIMINARY PLAT preliminary plat approval of Kelsey Subdivision, a 33-lot
residential cluster subdivision on approximately 18 acres in the
Evergreen and Vicinity Zoning District.
Johnson removed himself from the board for this application
due to a conflict.
STAFF REPORT Wilson presented the board with the applicants' suggested
findings and conditions. She stated that the City Council held a
workshop to consider the extension of city services to non-
contiguous properties. The Council is considering changing
their policy to allow services. At the end of that meeting the
Council specifically considered the Farris project and indicated
they would be willing to allow sewer services to this project. The
applicant has a couple of options, one to continue with the
project as it is or the other is to withdraw the application and
redesign the subdivision to include city water/ sewer.
BOARD DISCUSSION Mann asked that Parsons explain where the application is in
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respect to the council.
Parsons explained the process that the applicant has gone
(� through to this point. He stated that there would be no changes
to the application design. He explained his interpretation of the
subdivision and floodplain regulations. Parsons stated that the
applicant couldn't develop in the floodplain, as it is not allowed.
He added that the applicant would have to get a floodplain
permit to allow fill of two feet or more to meet the requirements
of developing within the floodplain.
Rice stated that the board, if they approve this subdivision,
would be approving development in the floodplain. He stated
that the developers could then sell the lots leaving the property
owners to get the required permits, which wouldn't be denied
because that would disallow the use of their property. He added
that the developer should be required to bring the property into
compliance with the floodplain regulations prior to the sale of
any lots or at the least it should be required that any purchaser
know in advance of the purchase about any floodplain
regulations that they would have to meet, and the costs
associated with that, in order to develop the lot.
Parson stated that the floodplain is substantially smaller than
what is showing on the federal maps. He added that the lots
would have a setback, which would include the floodplain area,
r� and therefore nothing would be built within the floodplain. On
I'__ those lots that do fall within the floodplain they would have to
be brought into compliance with a floodplain permit prior to
final plat.
Heinecke asked about lot five and Wilson explained that the
regulations state that land located within the floodplain cannot
be subdivided for a residential or building use. Staffs'
interpretation of that regulation is that land within the
floodplain should not be subdivided for residential or building
use. She added that there does seem to be latitude for design
changes on this application that would mitigate the use of the
floodplain area for lots.
Rice wondered if it were true that there would have to be a
floodplain permit to allow for any development within the
subdivision that falls within the floodplain.
Ek asked if lot 5 would have a culvert under it, which would
redirect the water, and was answered yes. Parsons stated that
any development within a floodplain would redirect water.
Mann stated that he agreed with staff, that the best use would
be to use the land outside the floodplain
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Garberg stated that he strongly heard the council state that the
policy will be changed and city sewer services will be allowed to
this subdivision.
Parsons stated that if it were a sure thing that there would be
sewer then they would still want the cluster development but
there might be some changes in the individual lot lines. They
would still place fill in the area of lot five. Realistically there
would be trade offs and they could go to the commissioners with
a different design. The applicant does not want to delay this
application another 30 days but they would be willing to come
up with a design to include the sewer if it becomes available.
Stevens stated that the actual cluster design of this subdivision
and the open space between this and the Granite View
subdivision is an advantage. He stated that leaving the
floodplain out of it the board should consider the cluster design.
He stated that he is confused with the difference between
Parsons' interpretation and staffs' interpretation of the
floodplain and the regulations.
Wilson explained that if recommended for approval this would
go before the commissioners and the floodplain administrator.
This is a non -delineated area and so there would have to be
some work before the actual boundaries of the floodplain would
be determined. She stated that in order to do that a surveyor
would have to go out and actually shoot the elevations.
Jean Johnson, speaking for the developer, stated that they had
gathered information and entered it into AutoCad, a software
program, and compiled that along with information that an
engineer had gathered by running a topographic of the area and
they had delineated the floodplain area. He stated that this
would not be enough for FEMA, but they would have to . then
prove their delineation to them.
Rice asked and was answered that staff used the current FEMA
map and without a formal review to change the floodplain
delineation staff has to use the current map as per the
regulations.
Stevens stated that there can be some changes from the
preliminary plat to the final plat
Wilson explained that FEMA would have to accept or deny the
change in the delineation of the floodplain and from there
changes could be made to shift the lot lines in accordance with
the final determination.
Mann stated that he does not think they are experts in the
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floodplain and he feels the staff conditions are good.
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MOTION Mann moved and Heinecke seconded to adopt staff report FPP-
99-9 as findings of fact and, based on these findings,
recommend approval of the preliminary plat subject to the
conditions as listed by staff.
Heinecke stated that he would like a modification to condition
11 - that parkland dedication may be met with the dedicated
open space area. Heinecke stated that the roads should line up
as per the road departments recommendation.
Stevens stated that the board should go through the conditions
individually.
The board discussed the conditions and changed the conditions
as follows:
Condition #3 - retain this condition as per staffs
recommendation.
Condition #4 - change the condition as per the developer's
suggestion.
Condition #6 retain this condition as per staffs
recommendation
Condition # 11 - change the condition as per the developer's
suggestion.
Condition # 12 - change the condition as per the developer's
suggestion.
Condition # 16 - retain this condition as per staffs
recommendation adding `unless application for city services are
denied by the city'.
Condition # 17 - retain this condition as per staffs
recommendation.
Condition # 18 - retain this condition as per staffs
recommendation.
Condition # 19 - That the developer be required to obtain the
floodplain permit and bring it up to a buildable lot prior to final
plat approval.
Sipe moved and Garberg seconded to amend the motion to
recommend approval of the preliminary plat by the above
amendments to the conditions. On a vote by acclamation the
motion passed unanimously.
On the amended motion to recommend approval of the
preliminary plat subject to the amended conditions all members
voted Aye. The motion to recommend approval with amended
conditions passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS The board discussed having a combined orientation meeting for
new board members and a parliamentary procedures workshop.
It was the consensus of the board that they would like to have a
( workshop by a parliamentarian on parliamentary procedures.
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The Commissioners and Council have rescheduled their Growth
Policy work session to Monday, February 14, 2000, at 7:00 p.m.
Heinecke stated that he has spoken with six of the council
members and he believed that they are looking forward to
getting together with the planning board to discuss the Growth
Plan.
Johnson stated that Brian Launius attends the DEQ meetings
on regulation amendments and he is available to the board for
comment and questions at any time.
Johnson stated that he would like to thank Joe Brenneman for
his service. He also thanked the board for their support in
keeping him as president. .
Garberg stated that he also appreciated Joe Brenneman.
A letter of appreciation for Joe Brenneman will be brought to the
board at the next regular meeting for all to sign.
ADJOURNMENT The next regular meeting will be February 8, 2000 at 7 p.m. The
meeting was adjourned by motion at approximately 10:00 p.m.
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