08-14-01KALISPELL CITY -COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES OF MEETING
AUGUST 14, 2001
CALL TO ORDER AND Chairman Greg Stevens called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL Members present were: Don Garberg, Dale Pierce, Ron Van Natta,
Rob Heinecke, Bill Rice, Greg Stevens; Don Mann, Don Hines and
Brian Sipe. Narda Wilson represented the Tri-City Planning Office.
There were approximately 60 people in the audience.
APPROVAL OF There was a motion by Heinecke and second by Sipe to approve the
MINUTES minutes as presented.
OF JULY 10, 2001
DOWNTOWN URBAN A request by the City of Kalispell for amendments to the Downtown
RENEWAL DISTRICT Urban Renewal District - Fire Hall Relocation and Contribution to
the Flathead City County Health Department.
Heinecke said that due to the large agenda for this nights meeting,
he felt this agenda item and the work program under new business
should be tabled until the September meeting.
MOTION Heinecke moved to table Agenda Item C, Downtown Urban Renewal
District and Item E-1, Work Program, until the September meeting.
Hines seconded the motion.
0 ROLL CALL VOTE The motion to table the agenda items passed on a vote of 6 in favor
and 3 against.
MOTION Stevens entertained a motion that due to the numerous agenda
items on this evening's agenda, public testimony be limited to a
maximum of four minutes.
Hines moved to limit the public testimony to a maximum of four
minutes and Garberg seconded.
ROLL CALL VOTE The motion to limit public testimony to a maximum of four minutes
passed on a vote 6 in favor and 3 against.
TIM BIRK A request by Tim Birk for an initial zoning designation of R-4,
ANNEXATION AND Residential, upon annexation into the City of Kalispell on 8.98 acres
INITIAL ZONING that lies on the north side of Russell Drive, west Willow Glen Drive
REQUEST /MUSKRAT and south of Kelly Road in association with Muskrat Slough
SLOUGH Subdivision, a 20-lot residential subdivision.
PRELIMINARY PLAT
STAFF REPORT Wilson requested that they combine the annexation and preliminary
plat request and hold one public hearing, but that a separate
motion be made for each request.
Stevens said they would combine the public hearings.
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Narda Wilson, of the Tri-City Planning Office, gave a presentation of
staff reports #KA-01-3 and #KPP-01-1, stating the property
proposed for annexation was on the north side of Russell Drive,
south of Kelly Road and west of Willow Glen Drive in an area
generally referred to as the "Greenacres" area. Wilson said the
property is currently in the County zoning jurisdiction and is zoned
R-5, a Two Family Residential zoning district and the applicants
were proposing City R-4 zoning, a residential zoning which allows
duplexes and single-family residences as permitted uses. Wilson
said the applicants were also requesting preliminary plat approval of
a 20-lot residential subdivision. Wilson said the subdivision would be
served by City water and sewer that would be extended from the main
that was along Russell Drive and would be reviewed and approved by
the Kalispell Public Works Department.
Wilson said that four letters in opposition and a letter from the
Flathead Conservation District had been received since the packet
went out which had been passed out to the Board.
Wilson stated this matter had gone to Site Review on August 2nd and
some of the concerns that had been raised at that meeting were
installation of the sewer line through the slough and that water
circulation not be obstructed when the water and sewer line were
installed. Wilson said the Site Review Committee had also expressed
some concern about Russell Drive being a private roadway and an
easement would be needed from the Meadow Park Unit II
Homeowners Association.
OWilson said the property was not in the 100-year floodplain and the
slough was considered State water, which would require the
applicants to obtain a discharge permit for storm water into the
slough, which was addressed in the conditions of approval. Wilson
said drainage in this area was an issue because of work and fill that
have been done in the slough over the years, most recently with the
installation of a culvert under Russell Drive and a culvert installed
under Willow Glen Drive to help stabilize the water level in the
slough. Wilson said that prior to emptying any storm water run off
into the slough, the applicants will be required to demonstrate that
the culverts are functioning property and that additional water would
not adversely affect the level of the slough in conjunction with their
drainage plan.
Wilson said access is proposed by an existing road that is
constructed to City standards, Russell Drive, which is privately
owned and maintained by the Meadow Park Unit II Homeowners
Association, but that is open to public use. Wilson said there was a
note on the final plat that states the private roadway easement shall
be maintained by the Meadow Park Unit II Homeowners Association
until such time that the subdivision is annexed into the City, at such
time it would become a public road. Wilson said the applicant will
O have to obtain an easement from the homeowners association
granting ingress and egress from Russell Drive to the proposed
subdivision, and traffic generation would be primarily onto Russell
Drive and then out to Willow Glen Drive.
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Wilson said staff recommends approval of staff report #KPP-01-1 as
findings of fact subject to the 20 conditions as outlined. Wilson said
staff is also recommending that the Board adopt staff report #KA-01-
3 as findings of fact and that the zoning for the property be R-4,
Residential, upon annexation.
Mann asked whether staff was asking the developer to fix the
culverts under Russell Drive and Willow Glen.
Wilson said when the final plat was filed it was certified that the
culverts were functioning and installed property. Wilson said they
were asking the applicant, that prior to final plat approve, they
demonstrate that culverts are still functioning adequately and can
accommodate the additional storm water discharge that will be
generated from the subdivision. Wilson said it may require some
repair.
Mann asked if the applicant would be allowed to put storm water run
off into slough.
Wilson said that was an issue that the Department of Environmental
Quality and Public Works Department would review. Wilson said it
was a substantial issue that the developer would have to address.
Mann said both culverts appear to be bad shape and asked how long
they had been there.
Wilson said the culvert under Russell Drive was installed in
approximately 1997 and the one under Willow Glen was installed
within the last few years as part of the Willows Subdivision.
Mann asked who installed the culverts.
Wilson said the developer of Meadow Park Unit II installed the
culvert under Russell Drive and when the Willows Subdivision was
developed, the developer installed the culvert under Willow Glen
Drive. Wilson said both subdivisions were done by the same
developer.
Mann asked if the culverts were sufficient.
Wilson said they could be without a lot of work, but there were other
concerns. Wilson said on the east side of Willow Glen Drive there is
a channel that was supposed to handle the over flow from the slough
that eventually discharges from a pipe into the Stillwater River,
which was properly certified and engineered, but is not well
maintained, which could be an issue. Wilson said the culvert under
Willow Glen does have some problems, maybe as a result of post
construction work done on the subdivision some sloughing could
have occurred on the north end of Russell Drive which could have
kept the culvert from functioning as well as it should. Wilson said a
C� reputable, local engineer had certified that it was properly engineered
and functioning.
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Van Natta said in the correspondence from the Army Corps of
Engineers that they had given the developer back in March 30 days
to clean out the culverts to make sure they were functioning, and
that it didn't take the culverts very long to become clogged up again.
Wilson said she had talked to Charlie Johnson at the Flathead
County Road Department about this matter, and Johnson said there
were several issues that were involved. Wilson said the drainage
easement on the east side of Willow Glen Drive is not part of this
project, and that Johnson had written a letter to Jim Hanz making
him aware of the drainage swale behind the Willows Subdivision.
Wilson said this matter was scheduled for Site Review next week.
Wilson said the other issue, which was directly related to this
project, is the culvert under Russell Drive and the west end of the
culvert under Willow Glen Drive.
Van Natta asked about the road and what happened if it wasn't
annexed.
Wilson said it had been City policy to allow subdivisions to occur on
the periphery without requiring immediate annexation, but a waiver
to protest annexation if it were to occur. Wilson said there were
several subdivisions directly to the west of this proposed one that the
infrastructure was installed in accordance with City standards, but
not immediately annexed. Wilson said it is the County policy not to
accept any new roads, so that all the new roads in the County are
privately owned and maintained, typically by a road users
association, homeowners association etc. to maintain that roadway,
typically by an easement rather than a dedicated right-of-way.
Wilson said the Commissioners have a policy that those private
roadways are open to public use, and this is one of those roads.
Wilson said there is a note on the final plat that states it is a private
road easement, owned and maintained by Meadow Park Unit II
Homeowners Association until the subdivision is annexed and then it
would be a public road. Wilson said because it is a private road,
owned by the homeowners association, they have to let the public
travel over the road but it would not entitle the general public, or in
this case, the developer unlimited access to further developing the
road. Wilson said because there are some legal issues surrounding
the road, staff was recommending that the developer get an
easement from the homeowners association if that road still remains
in a private status when he is ready to develop the property.
Van Natta asked why would the Board act on it if there was no
access to the property.
Wilson said she believed there was access to the property but the
developer needed to demonstrate that there was an easement there.
Wilson stated there was a provision in the subdivision regulations
that Wilson states when there is access across a private property the
applicant has to demonstrate that they have legal access across the
property to the extent and nature that is being used. Wilson said
this was not an uncommon condition.
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Van Natta said the letters that they were given earlier indicate that
the homeowners consider it a private road and chose- not to let the
developer use their road.
Wilson said the issue was more between the developer and
homeowners associate.
Van Natta asked why the developer didn't first get the easement and
then come to the Board.
Wilson said she didn't believe the developer knew the restrictions on
the property.
Heinecke asked if Meadow Park Unit II had public water and sewer.
Wilson said yes.
APPLICANTS / Tim Birk spoke in favor of the project, saying it was a small, light -
AGENCIES density subdivision. Birk said the road issue did come as a
surprise, because they had purchased the property on the west side
of the Stahlberg property from the City, which ran along Russell
Drive and borders two subdivisions. Birk said originally he had
meetings with Greenacres West and found out about the road issue.
Birk said he would like to work with the people on Russell Drive
and resolve the issue. Birk said they wanted to develop a quality
development in keeping with the neighborhood. Birk said the water
would come off Russell Drive through the Stahlberg property and
connect on the north end of the slough, and the sewer would go to
the left station on the north side of the property, and the primary
access would come from Willow Glen and the traffic impact through
the neighborhood would be fairly minimal. Birk said his main
concern was to work with the neighborhood.
Stevens said the Board had received four letters in opposition from
Karen Carter, Kathleen Hunnewell, Madalene Shoemaker, Paula
Buckley and a letter from the Flathead Conservation District which
outlined some steps the developer should take.
Stevens said when technical issues like storm run off, etc. arose the
Board didn't review those. Steven said the MDEQ, City -County
Health Department, and Public Works reviewed these issues.
Stevens said their review was of the criteria in the staff report.
Mann said he agreed that maybe they were putting the cart before
the horse, and asked Birk if he had talked to Meadow Park Unit II
homeowners or should they table this matter until these issues
were resolved.
Birk said it came as a surprise when this became evident. Birk said
the property was purchased in two segments, neither one of them
addressing an access problem, which became an issue after the
Opurchase. Birk said he has not talked to anyone in the
homeowners association, but in order to proceed if the Board
granted this condition approval on resolving this road issue.
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PUBLIC HEARING The public hearing was opened to those who wished to speak on the
proposal.
PROPOENTS Brett Birk spoke in favor saying they tried to plan the subdivision to
fit into the neighborhood, and that the other issues will be
addressed as they progress, and asked the Board to look at the
condition that gives responsibility for the two culverts to the
developer. Birk said if there was severe existing problems that the
responsibility should be shared, and was confident they could
resolve the road issue.
OPPONENTS Lynn Shoemaker, president of the Meadow Park II homeowners
association, 2199 So. Woodland Drive, said she was there to speak
on behalf of the association. Shoemaker said the association had
met several times since being notified of the proposed subdivision,
and were not opposed to the subdivision, but they are the owners of
Russell Drive, and had many concerns regarding the additional
traffic, the slough, and the number and types of homes being
proposed. Shoemaker said at this time the homeowners association
is not willing to grant an easement or give any permission for
anyone to access their road for the subdivision. Shoemaker urged
Birk to meet with them and discuss their concerns and come to an
agreement that would satisfy both parties.
Karen Carter, 2171 So. Woodland Drive, spoke in opposition saying
the culverts don't work and never had; there is no drainage and her
home floods.
Kathleen Hunnewell, 2189 So. Woodland Drive, spoke in
opposition, saying she lived on the corner of Russell Drive and So.
Woodland. Hunnewell said American Land and Development built
their subdivision and they had never been make to maintain or
make the culverts work in any way and asked how could they be
sure of that this subdivision will be made to adhere to the
conditions of approval.
Winifred Storlie, Airport Road, said she was involved in this
development because of her interest in wetlands and water quality.
Storlie said she applauded the gentleman who suggested that there
be some forethought and have these problems settled before there
was another sewer emptying into Muskrat Slough, because of the
health hazard.
Sipe asked if it was possible to table the application for a month.
Stevens said he felt there was an opportunity now for the developer
and homeowners association to resolve the issues, which may not
present themselves at a later date.
Pierce asked if Meadow Park Unit II was annexed into the City.
OWilson replied no.
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MOTION (TO TABLE) Pierce moved to table the application for a month due to the many
issues that needed to be resolved and Sipe seconded the motion.
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ROLL CALL VOTE The motion to table the application for a month failed on a vote of 5
against and 4 in favor.
DISCUSSION Sullivan said he was going to break protocol and ask the Birks if
they wanted to be annexed unless they had an approved
preliminary plat.
Birk said they did want to be annexed and this would give them a
chance to work with the homeowners association on Russell Drive.
Birk said he felt the preliminary plat should go ahead with adding a
condition on working out the access requirement.
Heinecke said it was already a condition of preliminary plat
approval.
MOTION (MUSKRAT Mann moved that the Kalispell City -County Planning Board adopt
SLOUGH SUBDIVISION staff report #KPP-01-1 as findings of fact and recommend to the
PRELIMINARY PLAT Kalispell City Council that the preliminary plat be approved subject
to the 20 conditions as outlined in the report. Garberg seconded
the motion.
DISCUSSION Mann said the condition he had the most problem was why the
developer was being required to fix problems caused by prior
developers.
Wilson said it was up to the developer to make sure there is flow
through the culvert and perhaps Birk could work the homeowners
association on the issue. Wilson said Condition #5 deals with their
entire drainage management plan. Wilson said it would be to
everyone benefit if the Corps put some pressure on American Land
and Development.
Mann asked if Birk had any objections to the conditions.
Birk said that was one of his main concerns and he wasn't sure
what it would entail. Birk said the culvert Russell is underwater,
and the culvert under Willow Glen is poorly engineered and may be
a major issue.
Wilson said there wasn't any condition that required Birk to be
responsible or that he has to fix the problem. Wilson said a storm
water drainage plan must comply with State of Montana and Public
Works and that a letter was needed from the Flathead County Road
Department saying the culvert under Willow Glen Drive has been
adequately installed to accommodate potential overflow.
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MOTION (AMEND THE Mann moved to amend his motion by striking Condition #6. Sipe
MAIN MOTION) seconded the motion.
0 DISCUSSION
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ROLL CALL VOTE
(STRIKE CONDITION
#6)
Heinecke said they needed to get to some point of resolution and
deleting the condition was not going to do that.
Van Natta said he was against striking the condition also and that a
letter from Flathead County Road Department wouldn't carry any
weight because the Corps was involved.
Rice said the condition should say because American Land put in
the culverts, and if new storm water problems arises then it will be
Birk' responsibility to resolve that. Rice said if they found that the
culverts were improperly installed then it should be taken back to
American Land or the Corps and have them upgraded to that point.
Mann said Condition #6 will only hinder this developer and that
Condition #5 says the storm water drainage plan must comply with
City standards.
Garberg said he agreed with Mann's comments.
Heinecke said the condition should stay but perhaps add something
that say the Corps needs to be involved.
Van Natta said Condition #7 brings in the Corps.
The motion to strike Condition #6 passed on a vote of 6 in favor
and 3 against.
DISCUSSION Rice said he would like to discuss the water quality and the concern
that the Conservation District had. Rice said he would like to add
an amendment to establish a riparian corridor along the slough
that would revegetate the area, and upgrade the water quality. Rice
said Country View Estates had done a similar thing.
MOTION (ADD Rice made a motion to add Condition #21 that a riparian corridor
RIPARIAN CORRIDOR) be established along the slough and that it be designed with the
input from the Flathead Conservation District and maintained by
the homeowners association, and that the acreage be applied
toward the parkland dedication.
Stevens said that was an open ended corridor that could be
anywhere from 20 feet to 60 feet and he personally didn't know
what a riparian corridor consisted of.
Rice said he couldn't address that either, but that if it was
cooperation between the developer and the Conservation District
then something could be established.
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Van Natta seconded the motion to add the riparian corridor as a
condition.
Van Natta said he would like a moment to review the letter from the
District.
Mann agreed the water quality should be reviewed but this was not
the time or place and that the Board was debating a preliminary
plat approval that would have to go through many other types of
review.
Van Natta asked Wilson what weight the recommendation from the
Conservation District carried.
Wilson said if it was a condition it would be included in the final
plat approval.
ROLL CALL VOTE (TO The motion to add a riparian corridor as a condition failed on a vote
ADD A RIPARIAN of 8 against and 1 in favor.
CORRIDOR)
ROLL CALL VOTE The motion to approve the preliminary plat of Muskrat Slough,
(MAIN MOTION) deleting Condition #6, passed on a vote of 9 in favor and 0 against.
MOTION (TIM BIRK Garberg made a motion that the Kalispell City -County Planning
ANNEXATION AND Board adopt staff report #KA-01-3 as findings of fact and forward a
INITIAL ZONING) recommendation to the Kalispell City Council that the initial zoning
of the subdivision be R-4, a residential district, upon annexation
into the city of Kalispell. Mann seconded the motion.
ROLL CALL VOTE The motion passed on a vote of 9 in favor and 0 against.
DISCUSSION Stevens stated that he hoped the Board would not have any more of
these types of issues that could have been worked out better
between the staff and developer and the staff report as far as the
road and the access so the Board did not have to try and determine
points of access here. Stevens said it had been discussed at the
Site Review Committee some time ago and the Board had taken a
lot of time at this meeting on this issue.
ADJOURNMENT The City portion of the public hearing was adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
Greg tev s, Chairman
APPROVED as presented Z/ corrected
Sandie Mueller, Recording Secretary
Date: l ` /l- 6 /
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