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KALISPELL CITY PLANNING BOARD & ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING
DECEMBER 10, 2002
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL
The regular meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board and
CALL
Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. Board
members present were: Bill Rice, Sue Ellyn Anderson, Jean
Johnson, Ron Van Natta, Mark Brechel, George Taylor and
Jim Atkinson. Narda Wilson represented the Tri-City
Planning Office. There were approximately 42 people in the
audience.
President Van Natta welcomed George Taylor to the board.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Atkinson moved and Anderson seconded to approve the
minutes of the Kalispell City Planning Board meeting of
November 12, 2002, as submitted.
On a vote by acclamation the motion passed unanimously.
JOHN AND CAROL SANTA
A conditional use permit request by John and Carol Santa
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
for a transition home (community residential facility) for
eight or fewer people on property zoned R-3, Residential,
located at 305 Fifth Avenue East in Kalispell.
STAFF REPORT
Narda Wilson, of the Tri-City Planning Office, gave a
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presentation of staff report KCU-02-9, a conditional use
permit to allow a community residential facility as a
transitional home for boys or girls leaving the Montana
Academy. There would be young adults that would live in
the home with on -site staff supervision. The proposed
property is zoned R-3, a Residential zoning district that lists
community residential facilities for eight or fewer people as a
conditionally permitted use. This use is proposed for an
existing single-family home and will need to be licensed and
operated in accordance with the State of Montana Public
Health Department for group homes. Staff recommended the
conditional use permit be granted subject to conditions.
APPLICANT/AGENCIES
John Santa, co-owner of the Montana Academy, explained
the intention of the transition home and the type of
adolescents it would serve. Santa noted the home would
allow for the transition from the academy, which provided
ranch living, to the community environment with guidelines
and a staff presence. He said this would allow the kids to
feel secure about their next step. He added it was their goal
to establish two homes, a girls and a boys home, and to
place kids in a community setting with staff supervision. He
indicated one of the girl's teams was present and asked a few
of them to speak on behalf of the academy.
Rebecca Bramnick, from San Francisco, said she is 17 years
old and came to the Montana Academy last January. She is
graduating in December and going on to college. She
thought it would have been helpful, because she was
nervous about leaving and going straight to college, to be
able to go somewhere in between. She said she never had
any drug problems, but her parents divorced when she was
14 and she wasn't handling herself well. She said she went
to the academy and it was hard, she went through a lot and
it helped her a lot. She noted that no one is crazy, no one is
bad, and they're not going to terrorize the neighborhood.
Sarah Buteux said she is 17 years old and has been at the
academy for a year and a half. She said when she was living
at home she had problems with her mother and they haven't
gotten along since she was young. She said she was
depressed and angry at the world. She is a senior now and
ahead of her class and she never thought she would be this
far. She thought the transition home would be a good place
for someone like her who doesn't want to go home. She said
they do have some special kids, but they're okay. She
thought this was a good thing for the community and that it
would benefit a lot more people than just them.
John McKinnon, co-owner and psychiatrist at the Montana
Academy, said he understood a lot of the neighbors were
present and hoped they would express their concerns. He
briefly described the Montana Academy and the kids that
attended. He said they do not accept suicidal, assaultive, or
psychotic kids. He said they also don't accept kids actively
involved in drugs, sexual predators, kids who have been in
jail or ones who will run away. He said the sheriff is never
called. He noted that none of their neighbor's has had cause
to be concerned and didn't think the neighbors of the
transition home would have any trouble. He thought the
kids needed the experience of a small town and said they are
polite. He added that if anyone had any real worries he
would be glad to have them come out to the Montana
Academy and visit the ranch.
PUBLIC HEARING The public hearing was opened to those who wished to speak
on the issue.
PROPONENTS I No one wished to speak.
OPPONENTS Delano Hanzel, 215 5th Ave. E., said this is a really nice
neighborhood and not to degrade the people coming, but a
family area and he had questions. He said when a family
has problems you can go talk to the family. He wasn't sure
who to go to if there was a problem with the kids. He
wondered how many supervisors there would be for eight
kids. He felt that because the state automatically permitted
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this use they didn't have any say and had concerns about
not being able to have stipulations. He didn't know whether
the tenants would be allowed to have cars and he assumed
there would be visitors. He wondered if there was ample
parking. He also had questions about supervision,
wondering how often they would change and if they stayed
overnight. He wondered if the supervisors were to be held
responsible. He noted that he lived five houses away and did
not receive notification of the meeting. He suggested they
extend the notification boundaries. He asked if the students
would be working and how long they would be there. He also
questioned where the financing was coming from and
wondered if he was helping to pay for it. He had concerns
about the future sale of the house and if the CUP carried on
with it. He asked if there were any other group homes from
the ranch in Kalispell and if they had any experience they
might relate.
Patrick Torstedson, 245 5+h Ave. E., said he moved to the
neighborhood because it was established and the neighbors
were kind. He had concerns about the safety of his two year
old. He grew up in an academy and he knew what it was
like. He had concerns about the future of the house, their
goals and whether they would sell. He also had concerns
about guidelines around the household, traffic, and parking.
He suggested they pass those guidelines out to the neighbors
and let them know their schedules. He also wondered about
yard work and upkeep. He noted this is a historical
neighborhood. He said he received a letter but his neighbors
didn't and wondered what efforts were being made from the
City to let the community know about the things that were
happening.
Robert Benke, 321 5th Ave. E., asked if the group home was
for profit or non-profit. He welcomed the ladies here tonight
and thought their courage spoke highly of their commitment
to the group home. As a 26-year resident he wanted to
support and echo a sense of strong community. He
wondered if the students would be allowed to possess cars
and if they had driver's licenses. As a public school Principal
he said he understood the importance of supervision and
asked how many adults would be on a shift at any one time.
He asked about their availability and accountability. He
wondered about opportunities for community service and
noted that part of the responsibility of living in any
community is that you don't just take, but certainly give
back. He said his residence was 50-feet away and wanted to
know who they were dealing with and the sequence of
ownership:
Judy Larson, 245 Woodland Ave., thought that when they
were all set to do good works the surrounding neighbors
were forgotten. She said that Mr. Santa and McKinnon were
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selling Montana and it seemed like a good place to go, but
putting such an academy in their neighborhood was asking
them to be responsible for that situation. She said she didn't
want to be responsible for it. She felt the 1973 law was
against them. She wondered if this home didn't last if
prisoners could be rehabilitated in the house. She thought it
opened up too many risks for the neighborhood. She had
concerns about supervision and wanted to know who was in
charge. She asked if someone would be there to cook and
how many people would be on the property at any one time.
She was concerned about increased traffic. She said these
were beautiful streets and they should be maintained. She
compared areas like Breckenridge and Telluride, Colorado,
where they make people pay to live. She said they don't give
it away. She thought we should garner and take care of our
City and be watchful of things coming in that could
eventually change to something else. She thought Art Walk
was wonderful and we should have more things for the
community and be aware of what we were giving away. She
said when properties were sometimes only 9 feet away, like
on the east side, they really needed to think about what they
were doing.
Jim Arestad, 311 5th Ave. E., said he lives next door. He had
questions about the care providers and wondered how it was
staffed. He asked how these young adults were going to be
screened and said it affected him directly because the house
is a three-story house that looked down onto his. He wanted
the screening process to be part of the conditions. He
apologized for missing the staff presentation and asked what
type of kids they were dealing with and how they would
impact the neighborhood. He also wondered what it would
do to property values. He said he would like thorough
answers and would like the City Council to consider the
issues carefully.
David Downey, 344 6th Ave. E., said he wished them all the
best and offered his sympathy for the problems they've had
to deal with. He admired them for the fact they were dealing
with them. He realized they needed a place to go and live
and he couldn't think of a nicer place. That aside, he
wondered at what point it was determined they could leave
Lost Prairie. He wanted to know what the hours would be at
the home, how many cars were involved and if they would
impact parking in the neighborhood. He said the concerns of
the neighbors were these and property values. He said
they've had some wild rentals and they were concerned if this
would be a disruption to the neighborhood.
Lauren Langmead said she lives kitty-corner to the property
and knows the Santa's and McKinnon's extremely well. She
said she has an incredible respect and faith in them and
their ability to figure things_ out and to listen to the
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community. She thought some of the questions would need
to be worked on, however, she vouched for them, saying they
have a lot of integrity and care about the neighborhood. She
felt they would treat the neighbors as if they lived there
themselves. She thought it would be fun to have these kids
there and said if they do come into the neighborhood she
would go out of her way to know them and welcome them.
Sherry Stevens -Wulf, 515 3rd St. E., said she's testified on
behalf of every group home coming into the Flathead. She
was surprised when she got the notice and thought, oh no,
not in our neighborhood. She said she's known the
McKinnon's and Santa's for many years and have seen the
people they've helped. She agreed with Lauren they are
quality people, honest people, and will work with the
neighbors. She hoped they could all go out to the academy
and become more acquainted with the facility. She had
concerns about safety and having to lock her doors. She
said she's worked with youth and supports the concept. Her
neighborhood has bonded and they are friends and she
thought this was something that could further that
relationship while working to help some young women in the
community. She hoped they were open to educating them,
she had concerns but was open.
Mr. Santa addressed some of the questions and concerns.
He said the students would not have vehicles, maybe
bicycles. He felt that as a part of the community they were
interested in maintaining the standard of a beautiful
neighborhood. He stated that, with their wives, they were
the owners of the whole enterprise and they had a great deal
of personal interest and investment and it was their interest
to continue in that way. If questions or concerns arose they
would be the ones to deal with and they would be more than
happy to work out solutions. He said they would have staff
on the premises that reside or spend the night. He explained
there might be times when the home was closed if the kids
were all gone to jobs or school. He stated there would be a
curfew and supervision. He noted that these kids wanted a
chance to continue growing up in a healthy way, which they
were now doing.
Mr. McKinnon stated it would be a place that is free of drugs
and alcohol.
Mr. Santa explained they were a regular corporation and pay
taxes on everything. He said they would finance the home
the same way anyone would finance a home. He explained
they wanted to create a way of treating children that worked
and they wanted control, which is why they own the
corporation. He noted that if they were non-profit they
wouldn't have any control and government interference
would make it impossible to treat the problems that
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adolescents have today. He explained the costs are high to
go to a privately funded facility and the kids come from
middle to upper class families. He said their thought was
they would use the transition home for 4 months to a year
and some kids would go to college while others would have
job experience.
Pat Urban, 345 5th Ave. E., asked what attracted them to the
house and Mr. Santa answered the proximity to downtown
Kalispell and the house was great. He said the staff could
locate on the central floor and the kids would be upstairs,
making the staff present in the middle at all times.
Santa explained the screening process and said that in order
to qualify the kids had to go through the last phase of their
program. He said they went through emotional growth work
and felt the students were ready to go to this level of
independence. He said they picked kids that would make
use of this and do a good job.
McKinnon said it was their first civic lesson to learn to live
with their neighbors. He said if you were wondering who to
call if there's a problem, you're looking at us.
Betty Hanzel, 215 5th Ave. E., asked what would happen to
the house and the CUP if they decided to retire in five years.
Van Natta stated the Conditional Use Permit was granted for
this particular use and they had to meet all the requirements
of the state licensing board. He said it was not transferable.
Chris Galloway, 535 5th Ave. E., thought they were missing
the point. He said it seemed to him they were reclassifying
and rezoning a historical area that is zoned residential. He
said he didn't buy the house he lives in now to have the
neighborhood chopped up into, today Conditional Use
Permits, tomorrow light industrial or offices.
Judy Larson, 245 Woodland Ave., asked if this was the case
here, were they changing zoning laws in a historical district
to accommodate something. She said it was disturbing that
this was something that was already decided. She said she
wasn't notified and just found out about it.
Hanzel asked and Santa answered they would not be eligible
to move from Lost Prairie into Kalispell unless they were in
the last of the five -stage program, or until they have
graduated from the program. They have a two -stage program
to determine when they can leave Kalispell. He said they
have to demonstrate they can take on college and move on to
an open environment.
Nancy Glarun-Arestad, 311 5th Ave. E., stated she researched
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the state law and understood that it had to be allowed. She
said her family was taking the view there was a reason it was
going to be there and they wanted to look on the positive side
and welcomed them to the neighborhood. She said it was
going to happen whether they wanted it or not.
No one else wished to speak and the public hearing was
closed.
MOTION Brechel moved and Anderson seconded to 'adopt staff report
KCU-02-9 as findings of fact and recommend to the Kalispell
City Council that the Conditional Use Permit be granted
subject to 3 conditions.
BOARD DISCUSSION Taylor thought talk about group homes brought up negative
images; that of young kids in T-shirts smoking cigarettes
with their tattoos showing. He said that was not the image
he heard tonight, at all. He thought they should embrace the
opportunity to show what Montana spirit, in the real folds of
a community, is like. He thought it was terrific they were
moving into the neighborhood and trusted they would do
what their leaders say. He thought it brought the saying, it
takes a village to raise a child, down to earth. He said, we
are your village and I hope we measure up. He added that
they had high expectations and he didn't want to see any
tattoos on anyone. He noted the statutes were not that
oppressive. He pointed out this wasn't just a state, but a
federal law. Taylor thought they should realize this is an
opportunity, not hold it in contempt or terror. He hoped it
would prosper. He thought the implicit condition was that
the house would not deteriorate, but would be full of life and
a vibrant addition to the community. He said that if it isn't
they have legal remedies, like nuisance abatement.
Atkinson noted his personal experience living next to a group
home, the Keith mansion, and said the result has been that
his sons have more compassion for all kinds of people. He
thought that was why there was a federal law, to say let's
give people the chance to get to know other people. He said
they were looking at eliminating this opportunity from the
Growth Policy, but as a result of tonight he saw that fears
from the neighborhood were brought forth and addressed.
He thought this was a chance for healing and understanding
for everyone to recognize they have a responsibility to one
another and to the neighborhood. He thought this was a
golden opportunity for everyone to see each other. When you
become the neighbor that the neighborhood expects, you will
be a part of that neighborhood. He appreciated the
opportunity and felt it was a growing experience.
Brechel noted that state law required properties immediately
adjoining this property be notified. He said the board went
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beyond that to 150-feet. He commented there were times in
every neighborhood he's lived in that he would be glad to
trade a neighbor or two for the young ladies he saw tonight
and even though they had no choice in the way they voted he
would vote in favor of it anyway.
Wilson noted that state statute for public hearings only
require legal notification in the newspaper. She said the
notice of property owners within 150-feet was well beyond
what the state requires.
Anderson congratulated and commended those who were
moving into the home. She said they have shown themselves
to be responsible adults by going through the phases of the
program. She said if she had a choice she would vote in
favor and has had neighbors she would gladly trade for the
group home.
Van Natta echoed that and said he would have no problem
voting for this if it was next door to him. He thought it was
something that was really needed and was glad there was
someone who wanted to provide the opportunity. He hoped
they would make the most of the situation and felt it was a
very positive experience.
ROLL CALL
The motion passed unanimously on a roll call vote.
OLD BUSINESS
No old business was reported.
NEW BUSINESS
No new business was reported.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:23 p.m. The
next meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board and Zoning
Commission will be held on Tuesday, January 14, 2003.
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