10-12-04KALISPELL CITY PLANNING BOARD & ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
O OCTOBER 12, 2004
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL
The regular meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board and
CALL
Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. Board
members present were: George Taylor, Jean Johnson,
Timothy Norton, Kari Gabriel and Rick Hull. John Hinchey
was absent. Sue Ellyn Anderson resigned at the end of the
September meeting. Narda Wilson represented the Tri-City
Planning Office. There were approximately 7 people in the
audience.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Johnson moved and Gabriel seconded to approve the
minutes of the Kalispell City Planning Board and Zoning
Commission regular meeting of September 14, 2004.
The motion passed unanimously on a voice vote.
HEAR THE PUBLIC
No one wished to speak.
KALISPELL GROWTH
A review of the Kalispell Growth Policy 2020 adopted by the
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Kalispell City Council in February of 2003 and the potential
revision of issues in land use goals and policies for the
community, development of public infrastructure and parks,
and the delivery of municipal services.
OVERVIEW
Narda Wilson, Tri-City Planning Office, gave a brief overview
of the Growth Policy. She stated the Planning Board worked
on the master plan, later the Growth Policy, for a number of
years, and it was adopted in February 2003 by the Kalispell
City Council. She said the Board and City Council added
language that it be reviewed annually for relevancy (the
statutes call for a five year review) and a report be given to
the City Council, who may initiate an update as needed; so
every year the Growth Policy will be looked at as part of
Planning Board's work program, and a report with any
suggestions will be sent to the City Council. She explained
that the Growth Policy was given a year to see how it worked
and scheduled for a fall review, to see if any conditions or
situations have changed that may warrant some updates.
Wilson explained that notices were sent out to various
organizations, including the Daily Interlake, Flathead County
Commissioners, Flathead County Planning Office, local
surveyors and engineers, the Northwest Montana Association
of Realtors, and other interested parties. A couple of
comments from the public and the Public Works Department
were received.
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She said that Planning Board members had previously
identified some areas of interest such as parkland,
redevelopment incentives, a joint meeting of the Board and
the City Council, density v. open space, a grid street system,
the relocation of the city airport and the Two Rivers
amendment.
Wilson put up the Growth Policy future land use map, which
shows the future utility service theoretically for 20 years.
The utility service area includes the Evergreen Water 8s
Sewer district, up to Whitefish Stage and Rose Crossing and
along Hwy 93 South past Four Corners. She said there is a
lot . of subdivision activity off Three Mile Drive, which takes
the City up to the potential utility service area in that area.
She said there is serious development pressure to the west,
with the Evergreen Sewer District to the east.
She asked, "Should the western boundary be .extended
another mile, or should we require infill before expansion.
Wilson also put up the Two Rivers Plan Amendment map; a
lot of the area lies within the potential utility service area,
including the potential mall site, and the City would provide
services if they were requested. She said it becomes a land
use issue, suburban and urban residential in the future land
use map, and if the City provides services, what is the
appropriate land use within the Growth Policy? She said this
is where we see deficiencies in the lack of coordinated
City/ County planning - the landowner asks the . County for
the change, but it is within the area intended to be served by
the City, and the City has no input. She said the Two Rivers
amendment should be looked at in the context of the overall
Growth Policy.
Wilson said there are issues that deal with the provision of
services north and west of town. She said there have been
enough changes in the community to look at making
potential revisions to the Growth Policy. She suggested
making a list of issues during tonight's meeting, holding a
Board work session later this month, and a later work
session with the City Council and, finally, another public
hearing.
Taylor asked if it was appropriate for the Board to take the
lead to contact the County to see if they could have a joint
work session. Wilson said some of the audience members
who are on the County Planning Board could comment on
that, and that it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a joint
session with the County Planning Board. I
PUBLIC COMMENT Don Hines, 140 West View, president of the County Planning
Board, said he will not comment publicly now, and that he
will just be listening. He stated he will bring issues raised
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tonight up at their own meeting on Wednesday night and will
present a list of points later.
Tim Calloway, 365 River Bend Road, Bigfork, stated that he
is the past president of the County Planning Board, and that
the extension of services is vital to growth. He said that
affordable housing is crucial, and the City must extend
services to be able to offer affordable housing. He said the
County is also at fault, that they have chances to build
affordable housing, but the developments need to be dense; if
you don't have the density, you can't afford the services. He
said a monitored, private sewer system in a particular
subdivision was not approved by the County because it was
too dense; the development now has 130 separate septic
systems, which is not good for the aquifer. He stated that
Cottonwood Estates should be doable, it would have
protected the aquifer and have been affordable housing; the
City should extend services in order to protect water and
build affordable housing. He said we should build affordable
housing using City sewer and build trailer parks, apartment
buildings, and give people a chance to build equity;
Evergreen and West Valley are prime examples of affordable
land for affordable housing and there has to be someplace for
people to go.
Taylor stated that he , agreed with Calloway that the
affordable housing issue is very important and that the
Board is looking for answers.
Russ Crowder, 2868 Lower Lost Prairie, Marion, stated that
he has real problems with the Growth Policy; the map shows
three times the area of the City limits outside the City's
planning jurisdiction, yet it is encompassed by the Growth
Policy. He stated the City made no effort to find out what
those property owners want to do with their land, and the
Growth Policy encompasses a lot more in terms of land use;.
Evergreen residents' concerns were ignored by the City. He
said he is not sure that a joint work session would be
productive given the political climate, and he suggested the
Extension of Services plan be separate and not tied to the
Growth Policy. He suggested the City pull their planning
jurisdiction back to the City limits and adopt their plan after
the County is done with their own Growth Policy. He said the
City will impact those properties, but those owners have no
input in the system unless the County says so. He said the
Growth Policy is irrelevant outside of City limits because it is
outside of the City's planning jurisdiction. When asked by
Taylor, he gave examples of the types of concerns expressed
by county residents about the City's Growth Policy such as
density in areas proposed, restrictions on building closer to
the river, and on high or low ground. He said the County
planning board is giving those concerns consideration but
the City is not. The City and County should sit down and
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work things out in good faith.
Ken Kalvig, 126 Lambert Court, stated he represents a
number of developers, one of which is Eisinger Motors, and
that Eisinger Motors wants to purchase a 10 acre parcel at
the corner of Highway 93 and Reserve Drive. He said the
Kalispell Growth Policy designates the area as neighborhood
commercial, but that no car dealerships are allowed. He said
his client must get a zone change and amend the master
plan in the County or amend the Growth Policy in the City; it
would take less time to get the County's approval. It would
have taken 8-10 months to change the zone in the City, and
the County will take 5-6 months. He said that if Kalispell had
not "colored" the area outside of their boundaries, his client
could have come to the City and asked that the area be
general commercial. He stated the City should have left areas
outside of the City limits undesignated. He said that the area
north of West Reserve in the Growth Policy was set as
residential development, but there are about 700 new acres
of commercial development about to be passed by Flathead
County in that area.
Jeff Larson, 128 Tamarack Woods, Lakeside, Flathead
County Planning Board, stated that he would like to get
together with the Kalispell Board to discuss issues. He said
that many projects in Evergreen come up as density versus
services, and that neighborhoods don't want high density
projects; they would rather the density be half without curbs
and sidewalks. He said these are issues around the City, but
Evergreen is different, and they want different things. He
said that everyone wants the best for Flathead County and
that neighborhoods are afraid of too much density, but we
must do what is best for the area. He said that affordable
houses built next to single family houses are not wanted in
many neighborhoods. He said they need to work together.
Marye Flowers, Citizens for a Better Flathead, 2778 Upper
Lost Creek Road, stated she had no significant issue to bring
up, but she is concerned there is no "general public" in
attendance at this meeting. She said there is an educational
component with this process, and that people need to see
options, and hear a free exchange of ideas and issues. She
said there is no opportunity to look at options with most
developments. She suggested the Board offer an extended
period for written comments on the Growth Policy and look
at issues like available land for infill, commercial areas, and
the basis for population growth. She said there are creative
ways to provide leadership as a Planning Board and to raise
questions and educate the community. She suggested
extending the opportunity for public input, encouraging
people to come and listen to a work session, and encouraging
more public participation in the process.
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DISCUSSION Taylor asked the Board to create a list of discussion items for
the Growth Policy. He suggested a study to expand the
service areas for the City.
Wilson stated that Jim Hansz, Public Works Director,
suggested some transportation issues: adding 3rd and 4th
Avenues East from Center Street to Idaho as collectors,
which would downgrade them from minor arterial streets to
collector streets, and put 3rd and 4th Avenues from 1Ith to
Center under local control. She said the City would then be
able to recognize 3rd and 4th Avenues East as local streets,
because the neighborhoods want to reduce the volume of
traffic on those streets.
Taylor and Hull suggested expansion of identified growth
areas and where we could encourage growth.
Norton thanked the audience for showing up, and agreed
that there needs to be cooperation and support between the
City and County. He had some specific issues regarding
some things that were said earlier, and the negativity
stemming from the FRDO fall out has hurt everyone, and we
need to foster future relationships. He said he is a huge
advocate of affordable housing, there are no affordable lots
available nowadays, and that higher density is the only way
to bring affordable housing to the area. He stated we need
incentives and compromise to build affordable housing, and
the topic is on the agenda for future work sessions.
Norton stated that the Board does listen to what the people
want and that his feeling is that the Growth Policy is a
guideline, and he is taken aback that it is seen as a negative
thing. He said the zoning regulations should be what we
don't want, not what we will allow. He asked that developers
don't just look at a color on the map and go to the County.
He stated that the community survey respondents showed
that people were not happy with planning, but less than
1/loth of 1% responded to the survey, so he does not put
much stock in the numbers. He thanked the County
Planning Board members for coming tonight.
Hull stated that density and affordable housing have
alternatives, and there is always a minimum density that
sewer requires. He would like more emphasis on a street grid
system, because major traffic problems arise without enough
side roads.
Gabriel asked Wilson to read the bottom of the Growth Policy
map, which states that the designations only apply to
annexations, and not land outside of City limits and is not
used for planning in general. Wilson said the City would
anticipate it to develop as such, but it is not under County
review; the City could be flexible and they are not set in
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stone. The map represents our vision, but is not limited to it,
and it is not intended to dictate type, size or density in the
County. It is strictly a tool for the Board and City Council.
There was a short discussion on the Cottonwood Estates
issue.
Johnson stated that many hours of work went into the
Growth Policy, and that coloring the maps was the wrong
thing to do. He stated the intent was not policy, but the
anticipation of growth, and that development will drive
growth. He feels that the City wants to dictate to developers,
and not work with them, and that the Board's job is to plan
and not politic. He said that money encourages growth and
that the City should be accommodating, not dictatorial.
Taylor stated that Norton was right when he said we can
agree more on what we don't want, than what we do want,
and that we need to start a dialog with the County to create a
good long range definition of what the valley will look like.
Wilson stated people want predictability, not change, and
planning should provide the predictability component since
there will be change. She said that design standards for
growth are a lasting component, and quality growth is very
important. She said it is important to have some kind of
vision and predictability, or there is no planning.
Taylor stated we should be able to reach a consensus, and
work it out.
Wilson listed the items suggested for Growth Policy
workshops:
1. Expansion of service areas and ways to encourage
growth,
2. Establishment of grid street system,
3. Third and Fourth Avenues East downgrading,
4. Parkland dedication,
5. Redevelopment incentives,
6. Techniques for affordable housing,
7. Reconsideration of relocating the City airport,
S. Planning around the City limits in general,
9. Expanding housing options such as mobile homes and
apartments,
10. Rural vs. urban standards for subdivisions,
11. Factual information regarding buildout for properties,
12.Implementation strategies.
WORK SESSION It was decided to hold a work session on October 26, 2004 at
7:00 pm.
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Wilson said she will send notices of the work session to the
same people on the mailing list for this meeting, and she will
invite Jim Hansz, Kalispell Public Works Director, to give a
presentation on the Extension of Services.
OLD BUSINESS
Wilson handed out the new architectural design standards,
and said they are pretty much finished, and that all we need
now are some graphics.
It was decided to have a work session on November loth to
finish discussing the architectural design standards, then
where it will go. There will need to be a public hearing in
before forwarding them on to the City Council.
NEW BUSINESS
Wilson stated that there quite a few applications for the next
meeting; Aspen Creek is coming back redesigned, a
commercial subdivision south of town has been submitted,
and three annexations initiated by the City of Kalispell are on
the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 9:00 p.m. The
next meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board and Zoning
Commission will be held on Tuesday, November 9, 2004.
JudiFunk
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Recording Secretary
APPROVED as submitted/corrected: A / 9 /04
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