05-13-08KALISPELL CITY PLANNING BOARD & ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
MAY 13; 2008
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL
The regular meeting of the Kalispell City Planning Board
CALL
and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m.
Board members present were: John Hinchey, Rick Hull,
Jim Williamson, C.M. (Butch) Clark, and Troy Mendius.
Richard Griffin was absent. P.J. Sorensen, Sean Conrad
and Tom Jentz represented the Kalispell Planning
Department. There were 3 people in the audience.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW
President Schutt welcomed new planning board member
MEMBER
Troy Mendius to the board. Richard Griffin, the board's
other new member will be in attendance starting with the
June 10, 2008 meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Clark moved and Williamson seconded a motion to approve
the minutes of the April 8, 2008 Kalispell City Planning
Board meeting.
ROLL CALL
The motion passed on a roll call vote of 5 in favor and one
abstention.
HEAR THE PUBLIC
Mayre Flowers, Citizens for a Better Flathead asked if the
planning board has considered revisiting the issue of a
possible redesign of the Kalispell Bypass for the community
to review. She said she thinks it should be considered and
she would be happy to assist in bringing the parties
together.
CITY OF KALISPELL NON-
A request. by the City of Kalispell to amend Sections
CONFORMING SIGH
27.24.060 and 27.24.150 of the Kalispell Zoning Ordinance
REGULATIONS TEXT
relating to sign regulations. The specific provisions would
AMENDMENT
govern the extent to which non -conforming signs would
maintain that status when the signage is discontinued or
the face of the sign is modified. The proposal would also
allow manually changeable reader boards to occupy up to
50% of a sign face, while limiting certain electronic
messages.
STAFF REPORT KZTA-08-01
P.J. Sorensen, representing the Kalispell City Planning
Department reviewed staff report KZTA-08-01 for the board.
The specific amendments are as follows:
27.24.060: General Standards for all Signs.
(2) An electronic message board provided it displays time
and temperature a minimum of every 30 seconds.
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shall not eempr-ise more of primAIT
The electronic message shall not change in
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increments of less than five seconds and shall not use
flashing or blinking characters. The use of red and
green lights in the display and streaming video
eelerS, whieh eanbe-eenfiased v +,raf e signs sueh
as rod or ^en, are prohibited.
(5) A sign may include electronic and manually
changeable reader boards. No more than 25% of
any sign area may incorporate an electronic reader
board, and no more than 50% of any sign area may
incorporate a manually changeable reader board.
In no event shall the percentage of sign area
occupied by reader board exceed 50%. The reader
board portion shall be architecturally incorporated
into the overall design of the sign. No such sign shall
be considered to be architecturally incorporated
unless the reader board is contiguous to the
remainder of the sign face and is bounded by the
same or similar framework.
27.24.150: Nonconforming Signs and Signs
Without Permits. Existing signs that do not conform to
the provisions of these regulations but were legally in
place prior to the adoption or application of this
ordinance, are considered non -conforming. All non-
conforming signs shall be removed or brought into
compliance with these regulations as follows:
(5). Discontinued freestanding signs shall be brought
into compliance immediately unless part of a multi -
panel sign, subject to Section 27.24.150(8).
(8). Freestanding sSigns containing removable or
replaceable panels shall be brought into compliance
when a cumulative total of more than 50% of the
sign area or sign panels are replaced or modified.
One letter of support for these amendments was received
from Flathead Industries.
Staff recommends that the Kalispell City Planning Board
and Zoning Commission adopt staff report KZTA-08-01 as
findings of fact and recommend to the Kalispell City Council
that the proposed amendments to the sign regulations be
adopted as recommended in the staff report.
Hull asked what prompted these amendments and Sorensen
said there were a number of situations that came up where
businesses needed to change their signs. The city council
looked at these issues at recent work sessions and this
proposal was put together based on council's direction.
Hull asked if the sign at Flathead Industries Thrift Store
would be affected. Sorensen explained it would affect their
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signs. They have a non -conforming freestanding sign and a
non -conforming wall sign that sits above the roofline. If this
goes through, Sorensen said, the non -conforming
freestanding sign would have to be brought into
conformance and the roof sign would be allowed as a non-
conforming sign.
Clark asked for further clarification and Sorensen explained.
Williamson asked for a definition of discontinued
freestanding signs which Sorensen provided.
Williamson quoted from the staff report that states "non-
conforming signs could be maintained indefinitely with a
competitive disadvantage imposed on newer properties." and
asked if staff is acknowledging there is a value to signs that
are legally non -conforming. Sorensen said to some degree
but if you are talking about amortization schedules and
someone argued that it was some sort of a regulatory taking
you would be looking at a 7-year amortization. Sorensen
provided an example. Sorensen added they didn't think it
would be fair to allow a certain business to have a sign that
was 3-5 times larger than a competitor next door who was
restricted on their signage. The idea was to put everyone on
a level playing field and not create disproportionate amounts
of signage. Williamson said it shouldn't be the government's
role to level the playing field in business because business is
competitive.
Clark agreed with Williamson.
Sorensen said the simple fact that a sign is non -conforming
doesn't trigger the regulations it is when a business wants to
change their sign. The current regulations cover any wall or
freestanding sign if the sign is discontinued or if 50% is
changed the sign loses its non -conforming status and then
has to be brought into conformance.
Schutt said he philosophically agrees with the amendments.
Williamson asked why the time and temperature has to be
displayed every 30 seconds on electronic reader boards.
Sorensen said that isn't part of the amendment being
proposed but it is industry standard and provides a public
service.
Williamson said if the city dictates content it could be a
liability issue and Sorensen said he doesn't think it would be
a substantial concern.
Hull asked for further clarification on the Sportsman/
Flathead Industries sign and Sorensen responded.
Clark asked if the LC Staffing sign was
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Sorensen said programming of their sign has recently been
addressed by our Code Enforcement Officer and staff is
trying to bring it into compliance. Clark thought the sign
was dangerous because it is red and conflicts with the
signal. Sorensen said they have been running into this issue
and that is why red and green colors are not allowed on the
reader boards.
APPLICANT/CONSULTANTS
None.
PUBLIC HEARING
President Schutt opened the public hearing and there being
no one wishing to speak the hearing was closed.
MOTION
Hinchey moved and Schutt seconded a motion to adopt
staff report KZTA-08-01 as findings of fact and recommend
to the Kalispell City Council that the Non -Conforming Sign
Text Amendment be approved as noted in the staff report.
BOARD DISCUSSION
Hull said having participated in several meetings regarding
the sign regulations this is a very controversial issue. The
basic concern for the city is aesthetics. Hull added he is
concerned about the wall mounted sign at the old
Sportsman building (now Flathead Industries Thrift Store)
because it is not attractive and he is disappointed that it
will not be removed.
Mendius asked if there is any precedent or has there been
any consideration in this proposal for someone who might
want to exploit these stipulations by constructing a sign
that had the 25% electronic reader board and 50%
manually changeable reader board? Sorensen said they
would not be able to do both and he referenced the
amendments.
Schutt asked if they would be able to use a 25% manual
and 25% electronic sign and Sorensen said he hasn't
encountered this and added the concern has been with the
electronic boards.
Hinchey said he shared Schutt's concern and suggested an
amendment that would read "a sign may include either
electronic or manually changeable reader board". Sorensen
agreed that would be a way to do it and Clark suggested
another location in the regulations for this amendment.
Further discussion was held and no formal motion on the
amendment was made.
ROLL CALL
The original motion passed on a roll call vote of 4 in favor
and 2 opposed.
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CITY OF KALISPELL A request by the City of Kalispell for a text amendment to
PLANNED UNIT update Chapter 27.21 of the Kalispell Zoning Ordinance
DEVELOPMENT TEXT relating to planned unit developments (PUD'S), including,
AMENDMENTS but not limited to, requiring a pre -application meeting,
establishing a 2-tiered system of PUD applications to
accommodate the level of information provided in phased
projects or projects that will be built out over a significant
number of years, providing a definition of developable area
and revising the application requirements, the
abandonment requirements and the density provisions.
STAFF REPORT KZTA-07- Sean Conrad, representing the Kalispell Planning
04A Department reviewed staff report KZTA-07-04A for the
Board.
The amendments proposed are as follows:
1. Eliminating the requirement that a PUD be limited to
a single owner or that it be under single ownership
and requiring all owners of the PUD to sign the
application or give a letter of support.
2. In November staff had proposed a full application
PUD as has always been provided in the PUD
regulations as well as 2 other alternatives.
The first was a placeholder PUD application
which would. bind an owner to using the PUD
process and label the property as a PUD but
the owner would not provide any application
materials at this time nor could he develop his
property in any manner until a full PUD
application was submitted and approved. This
provision has been maintained in this draft.
The second provision was called a concept
PUD application which would allow an
individual to submit a PUD with a conceptual
road alignment, densities, uses and park
lands plan. This would allow master planning
of larger tracts of land without the problem of
giving site specific designs for every aspect of
.a development years in advance of when they
will be built. The applicant would have to
provide a full PUD application for each phase
as the phases were developed. This concept
was deleted at the direction of the council.
3. Adding a planning board and council review criteria
for assuring that there is internal integrity of design
in the PUD. This would include assuring that there
are good design features within the development
including streets and street design that fit with the
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proposed land uses, that there are transitions and
buffers between different densities and intensities of
uses, that pedestrian access has been accounted for,
that signage, fencing and lighting is well thought
out, etc.
4. Defining what developable area is within a PUD and
not allowing densities to be based on undevelopable
lands such as flood plains, wetlands, water bodies,
BPA power easements, etc.
5. Generally reducing the allowable residential density
allowed outright for each zone and then adding
density incentives for affordable housing and
additional open space and developed parklands.
6. Allowing PUD's to occur in P-1 (public) zones.
Staff is recommending that the Kalispell City Planning
Board and Zoning Commission adopt staff report KZTA-07-
04A as findings of fact and recommend to the Kalispell City
Council that the Planned Unit Development Text
Amendments be approved as attached to the staff report.
BOARD DISCUSSION Hull asked for an example of a PUD in a P-1 zone and
Conrad said the pre-release center that is being considered
for Kalispell and KidsSports. Clark asked why the city
would allow public land to be developed at all and Conrad
said if similar developments were to come in staff thought
locating them in the P-1 zones should be an option.
Hull asked if someone has a PUD placeholder would it have
to come back through the entire process and would there
be a possibility it could be turned down and Conrad said
yes.
Schutt asked if it would be mandatory that a work session
be held on every PUD and Conrad said yes.
AGENCIES/APPLICANT I None.
PUBLIC HEARING Mayre Flowers - Citizens for a Better Flathead, 35 - 4+h
Street West asked if the board had in front of them the
submittals that Citizens gave to the board last October and
Schutt said no. Flowers indicated her frustration with the
process and said she doesn't think there has been
adequate public participation.
Schutt asked if she was referring to the Pitkin County and
Bozeman information and Flowers said yes. Schutt stated
that he had reviewed the information when it was first
presented to the board.
In regards to the PUD amendments Flowers stated Citizens
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for a Better Flathead feels some positive changes have been
made to the amendments. They do, however, still have
some issues that she wants to address:
• There should be a statement on the plat that the
owner at the time of application agrees to abide by
this PUD and wording should be inserted to cover
subsequent owners so that they don't run into legal
issues of trying to enforce conditions on a owner who
is not party to an agreement.
• The placeholder PUD is a feasible concept and they
appreciated the fact that the concept PUD was
removed according to the council's direction.
However, they are concerned to see that it has
essentially been reinserted on page 4 of the
regulations.
• Flowers encouraged the board to consider increasing
public notice. Missoula County and city requires a
public notice in the form of a sign be posted on the
property which gives the adjoining property owners
an opportunity to get involved in the process up
front. She added Flathead County has now added
that to their subdivision regulations and she feels it
is appropriate for the city.
• Section 27.21.020 needs stronger language inserted
that would require that subsequent owners of this
property comply with the PUD.
• Page 3 of 12, under Item 3. c. Add to the mapping
required, stormwater facilities. Flowers used Valley
Ranch as an example and said a part of that
property along the highway is used by people in
canoes in really wet years because it floods. The city
reviewed a PUD for Valley Ranch that proposed very
intense development in that area and it would be
appropriate for the city to know how they intended
to address stormwater.
• Under Item 3. e. she would suggest that a section on
trails and sidewalks be added and a Safe Route to
Schools Plan be included to show how the children
from these large developments will get to and from
school.
• Page 4 of 12, Item 3. g. Flowers suggested that a
statement be added that the text will include a
discussion on how the design features enhance or
address compatibility issues with neighboring
properties.
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Item 31 Flowers asked the board to go back and
look at the original wording for homeowners
associations, page 67 of the existing zoning
ordinance and include it in the amendments. In
addition a provision for providing covenants should
also be included even if the city is going to choose
not to enforce them because it lets the public and
the planning board know what is being proposed
and what type of maintenance will be included.
• Also under Item 3.1 Homeowner associations are not
allowing parking on private streets and she thinks
when subdivisions or PUD's have streets that are
private they should provide adequate parking to
allow the public access to public trails and parks.
• Flowers stated the bonding issue is more clearly
worded in the original regulations and she asked the
board to consider that wording.
• Item 3.1. This provision essentially reinserts a
concept PUD into the regulations and she believes
this should be deleted.
• Page 5 of 12 Flowers stated they appreciate the
language that was added under 4.d. & 4.g. which
relates to compatibility with existing neighborhoods.
She suggested the board look at the Blaine County
and Bozeman regulations and insert language from
those documents and requested that the board have
a work session to review the criteria.
• Under Item 4.h. The existing regulations require the
city attorney review terms and conditions and
provide the board with comments that the phasing
and terms are adequate for enforcement.
• Flowers suggested the language about subsequent
owners be inserted on page 6 of the amendments.
• Page 7 of 12, Item 7.d. Flowers referred again to the
need for additional public notice in the form of a
posted sign and suggested it be included in this
Section.
• One of the issues she didn't see addressed that came
up in other PUD's is requiring the large scaled
phased projects to build the public benefits portions
like parks and trails in the first phases.
• Page 8 of 12, Item 10.a.2. Flowers thought the use of
the word anytime was too broad and said both the
city and Bozeman had a much more time specific
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deadline.
27.21.030, Item La. The definition of "developable
area" includes open space and she is not clear if this
definition and the definition in the existing zoning
ordinance are compatible. She asked the board to
look at the existing definition on page 175 of the
zoning ordinance.
Also under the same Item La. "undevelopable area',
she asked the board to include stormwater facilities
and lift stations. There have been a number of
developments that have come through that have
placed lift stations within parks and she doesn't
think they should get credit for that land as
parkland.
Page 10 of 12 Flowers said they strongly support the
affordable component. Flowers added they need to,
under 2.c.2., insert language that affordable housing
needs to retain long-term affordability. If the city is
going to allow a density bonus for affordable housing
we need to know it is a long-term, permanent
affordability.
• She thought it would be useful to do the math on
what the density bonus will be for the Siderius
Commons project which is proposed as a 100-unit
community land trust south of Four Corners.
• On page 11 of 12 under Item 6.b. she thought the
section number cited should be 27.21.030 (1(a)).
• Flowers had the same questions about adding PUD's
to P-1 zoning districts and thought the conditional
use permit process might be more appropriate on
public land.
• Under the residential PUD on page 12 of 12, Item 5.
The commercial uses in the mixed PUD are the same
as those permitted in a commercial PUD and she
believes a residential situation should be limited to
those specifically serving the neighborhood.
• Flowers said the PUD standards for commercial state
they serve the neighborhood first and second the
larger neighborhood and she thinks it is pretty
vague.
Jentz noted there was one letter received from Sands
Surveying and they generally supported the concepts but
they did raise issue with not allowing floodplain areas along
creeks and rivers to be counted as open space.
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MOTION Clark moved and Schutt seconded a motion to adopt staff
report KZTA-07-04A as findings of fact and recommend to
the Kalispell City Council that the PUD text amendments
be approved as attached to the staff report.
BOARD DISCUSSION Williamson asked about the direction by the city council to
strike the concept PUD. Jentz said although he continues
to be supportive of the concept PUD he feels the need to
have updated PUD regulations is more important. He
thinks the concept PUD was misunderstood in what it was
intended to achieve. Jentz continued when it went to
council they struggled with the concept PUD so it was
pulled. The placeholder PUD is very important especially as
land is annexed.
Williamson asked if Jentz would agree with the statement
that (Item 1. on page 4) is a reintroduction of the concept
PUD that was removed by council and Jentz said no. He
added you could look at the last several PUD's that came
through, Starling in particular, and when reviewing future
phases, 20 years from now, the detailed -park plans are not
quite as detailed. Jentz asked, would you pay a landscape
architect to provide a detailed park plan for 20 years from
now? To ask for the level of detail that is so specific when
they know in 10 years the design will change doesn't make
sense he said, so they set up procedures to come in for
major or minor review of these changes.
Jentz continued PUD's will change over time and Citizens
for a Better Flathead perhaps is concerned that there isn't
enough public protection and awareness. Staff wants to
make the PUD regulations work, apply to the real world
and be functional.
Hull asked how does the board ensure they have an
opportunity to review the PUD's when they actually come in
and Jentz used Valley Ranch as an example. Jentz noted
Valley Ranch is proposing an assisted living facility and
under the RA-1 zoning they could just build it. With a PUD
staff would say yes you can have an assisted living facility
and the developer would provide general parameters.
However, when they are ready to build it they would have
to submit a conditional use permit. Knowing that we
cannot anticipate all of the future impacts we want to
provide future staff review through a CUP with a public
hearing and review process. Therefore in 12 years if they
can't meet the conditions and face the public scrutiny it
won't be built.
Hull thinks the placeholder PUD gives the city less
protection than the conceptual PUD unless conditional use
requirements are included. Jentz said they already do that
for some of the PUD's and perhaps the wording needs to be
clearer.
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Schutt said when they talk about multi -phased projects he
is ok with things being fuzzy that are 10-12 years out but
he wants a firmer plan for the first few years, say phases 1-
4. Hull said what happens if the developer runs into
financial trouble and has to sell to someone else and how
would the new owner/developer be held to the PUD. Jentz
said they still have to meet the conditions of the PUD.
Hull said his concern is that there needs to be some type of
additional public review and Jentz said that could be
added.
Hinchey noted what is being discussed is the suggestion
made by Mayre Flowers that subsequent owner
responsibility should be included on the final plat. Hinchey
asked if they need to include wording that ties the
subsequent owner specifically to a PUD and Jentz said no
because it would be redundant and he explained. Jentz
added they are already bound by the ordinance that the
city council adopts.
Schutt clarified they would be locking the owners in at the
beginning of the process and at the end of the process that
ties back to a city council ordinance that approves the
PUD. Jentz said yes but to be honest he would be perfectly
comfortable if they struck that entire certification, which
was carried over from the old regulations. Jentz said it
could be just as easy as directing the Zoning Administrator
to certify the final documents.
Schutt noted he really liked the PUD density allocation and
the mandatory PUD work session. However he still wants to
go back to section L under multi -phased projects where It
states "may show conceptual street design, proposed parks,
conceptual open spaces, etc..... vs. detailed lot, block, park
development etc." As a planning board member he looks at
a project and wants to have a certain level of comfort as to
where they are going with street layouts, lot sizes and lot
orientation. Schutt said he doesn't know how to suggest
that it be worded differently but he wants to prevent the
approval of a conceptual plan for 100 lots and when it
comes to final plat there are 120 lots. Jentz suggested
adding, "no phase shall be developed unless it meets all of
the PUD criteria." Jentz added the density is locked in
which is not negotiable unless additional hearings are held
and public notification is done.
Jentz continued when you look at the first phases of
Starling they knew exactly where the streets would be. The
last phase which had a road with estate lots along a
parkway could vary 50 - 100 feet when it finally comes in
for preliminary plat. Jentz asked would that be a problem
as long as the number of units stays the same, he didn't
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think so. In addition he doesn't want the public to have a
perception that they could walk out there and survey the
location of the road in phase 14. Further discussion was
held.
Schutt again mentioned he wants to see phase 1 nailed
down and he asked if phase 2 should be too if it is
submitted within a year or so because he thinks it is too
fuzzy and needs some definition. Jentz said that is why the
concept PUD was suggested because they would still had to
come back for full approval and suggested adding a
condition where as future phases come in that do not
comply with all the PUD standards they have to go back
before the board for review. Jentz noted now when each
subdivision comes in for a PUD that subdivision
preliminary plat comes before this board and specific
engineering and location designs will be reviewed at that
time.
Hull wants to ensure that the board has a say when other
phases are built 20 years from now.
The Glacier Town Center/Wolford project was discussed.
Schutt said he agreed with Ms. Flowers' suggestion
regarding adding the location of stormwater facilities to the
initial maps submitted. General discussion was held
regarding stormwater and the depth of information that
should be submitted initially. Jentz noted there are
stormwater systems that the city will not currently allow
and reminded the board that 10 years ago the city was not
required to address stormwater, nor did the city have
Stormwater Regulations or a Stormwater Engineer on staff
and now they do. Further discussion was. held regarding
stormwater.
Schutt said when they are looking at projects at the scale of
Willow Creek he thinks it appropriate to require conceptual
street layouts, lot densities, and how the stormwater
facilities will fit into the entire project. Jentz said staff can
ask for it but the board needs to realize it will be
conceptual.
Jentz added he thought this discussion was already
covered under Item 3.e. Schutt suggested adding trails and
sidewalks to the list under Item 3. e. and requesting a Safe
Routes to School Plan as requested by Ms. Flowers and
Jentz agreed it could be added.
Schutt referred to Section 31 that addresses elevation
drawings and asked how binding those have been in the
past. Jentz cited some examples and said they expect to
see elevation drawings on commercial projects. He added
what they are trying to do in this case is create an
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exemption for single-family, townhouse, and duplex design,.
since those designs are on a personal level. P.J. Sorensen
said an example is the buildings at Hutton Ranch. The first
designs had a lot of towers and before long the
Architectural Review Committee grew weary of seeing the
same design on every building. Sorensen suggested they
may not want to necessarily hold them to the first design
which would allow for flexibility of design. Jentz added 5
years ago the city didn't have an Architectural Review
Committee either and their role is to review all commercial
building designs in Kalispell.
Schutt asked on Item 31 on page 4, where do covenants
fall into the whole PUD process. Jentz said covenants are
designed by the developer to protect the standards of his
development while he is selling his lots. At 2 / 3rds
ownership he turns the covenants over to the homeowners.
The city does not enforce covenants and fully understands
that covenants, the day they approve a subdivision, could
be and are amended by the developer. So if the city has
concerns Jentz said they have to be discussed up front and
added to the conditions and design standards.
Hull noted the county and perhaps the city used to be
party to covenants until the Human Rights Commission
discovered covenants that prohibited children and everyone
was sued. Now the county and city no longer enforce
covenants.
Schutt said Ms. Flowers also mentioned that the bonding
as currently written in our PUD regulations is better than
what is being proposed in these amendments. Jentz said
that is true but there is no reason to bond a PUD. You
would however bond for a subdivision because when a final
plat comes in lots have been sold and you need a guarantee
that the conditions will be met and the work completed.
Schutt clarified on page 9 where residential PUD districts
are being established they can do a PUD for less than 2
acres in size but it is not eligible for bonuses and Jentz
said yes. He added PUD's on 2 acres or less could be used
for infill projects.
Schutt said there are density bonuses for parkland and for
medium income housing, is there anything else? Jentz said
park, open space and housing and added there was a
concern about long-term affordability but those issues will
be dealt with under the soon to be organized County
Housing Authority, Habitat for Humanity, Northwest
Montana Human Resources and other agencies, but not
the city.
Hinchey said he thought President Schutt touched on most
of the comments by Ms. Flowers but he thought the idea of
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posting public notice on the property is a good one and he
asked staff to consider that suggestion. Jentz said he will
come up with a concept for the board to consider.
Hull said the health department started to post notices
when people were burning and they found it helpful
because the neighbors would know there was going to be a
fire on the adjacent property.
Williamson wanted to touch on PUD's in the P-1 zones and
Jentz said his concern is if someone has P-1 zoned
property and wants to do a PUD the city has no option but
to say no. Jentz noted there is also a pre-release center
that will need to be built somewhere in the community that
will be constructed by a private developer and he thinks it
would be great to locate the center as a PUD in a P-1 zone.
Jentz continued P-1 zones are intended to be public but
there can be privately owned properties within them, such
as with the city airport area. Williamson thought P-1 zones
had a connection to public ownership of land and he is
opposed to public owned lands being developed. Further
discussion was held regarding PUD's in P-1 zones.
Mendius noted that Mr. Mulcahy, in his letter from Sands
Surveying, voices his concern over why floodplain areas
along creeks and rivers cannot count as open space. Jentz
said the city's parks department has been adamant about
not accepting floodplain and wetlands as parks in the past
but he said he would be willing to discuss with them the
inclusion of a portion of these areas as parkland in the
future. Jentz added Mr. Mulcahy is talking about a
particular developer who has Stillwater River frontage,
some in the floodplain and some surrounded by floodplain.
Jentz also noted that after these initial amendments are
adopted staff will be looking at the entire zoning ordinance
for review and that will include another review of the PUD
standards.
Schutt said on page 8 where they are defining developable
and undevelopable area is the 100 year floodplain going to
count as undevelopable area? Jentz said for density
calculation, yes. Schutt said a lot of property descriptions
go to the center line of say, Ashley Creek so people do buy
property that is undevelopable. Schutt said he enjoys
seeing those undeveloped areas of land, such as the buffers
along Ashley Creek as in the Willow Creek project. Schutt
does agrees, however, that the parks department should be
contacted to discuss this issue.
Clark said if they are talking about once every 100 years for
flooding and for a park these areas would be fine, not the
floodway but the floodplain. Clark added the developers
shouldn't be penalized because it is floodplain. Jentz said
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the current subdivision regulations do not allow lots or
parks in the floodplain but staff will take a look at that.
Williamson said he also has an issue with the 30% slope
and asked if it appears in other regulations. Jentz said that
is pretty much a traditional undevelopable standard and is
part of the city's subdivision regulations. Williamson asked
if there is any flexibility if he as a developer wants to put
structures on the 30% slope land and Jentz said no.
Williamson noted Whitefish lost that argument in relation
to their critical areas ordinance.
Hull said the issue is whether they would be able to count
these areas toward the total density or not.
Further discussion was held.
MOTION TO TABLE
Williamson moved and Hinchey seconded a motion to table
the PUD amendments to the June 10, 2008 regular
planning board meeting.
ROLL CALL TO TABLE
The motion passed unanimously on a roll call vote.
OLD BUSINESS:
Schutt mentioned the issue that was raised by Ms. Flowers
regarding the possibility of this board discussing the
redesign of the Kalispell Bypass and asked Jentz to tie that
into the recently approved Transportation Plan. Jentz said
the recently approved Transportation Plan adopted the
current configuration and location of the bypass as
designed by MDOT.
Hull suggested the need to look at a bypass with a 45 mph
speed limit otherwise it is never going to get completed.
Clark noted that is not a decision that this board can
make. Hinchey suggested maybe this board could suggest a
few changes to get the bypass built in their lifetime.
Further discussion was held.
NEW BUSINESS:
Jentz noted the Election of Officers for the planning board
will be scheduled for the June 10th meeting.
There was discussion regarding the tentatively scheduled
planning board work session on May 27th and the work
session scheduled after this meeting and it was decided
neither session would take place.
Conrad reviewed the projects that are scheduled for the
next meeting in June which are a conditional use permit
for the Flathead Chemical Dependency Clinic Women's
Home Recovery Facility and annexation of a property
located on Shady Glen near Woodland Park.
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Jentz also noted that the planning office has received the
applications for the Siderius Commons Annexation and
Growth Policy Amendment, located south of Four Corners.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at approximately 10:00 p.m.
WORK SESSION:
Immediately following the regular meeting a work session
was held on the following items:
1. Entrance Corridor Standards Text Amendment
2. Kalispell West Growth Policy Amendment
Due to the late hour this work session was not held.
NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Kalispell City Planning
Board and Zoning Commission is scheduled for June 10,
2008, at 7:00 p.m. in the new Kalispell City Council
Chambers located at 201 First Avenue East.
The work session tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, May
27, 2008 was cancelled.
Bryan Schutt
President
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Michelle Anderson
Recording Secretary
APPROVED as submitted/corrected: 6 / / a /08
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