3-12-13 Technical Advisory Committee Minutes
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KALISPELL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF MEETING
MARCH 12, 2013
CALL TO ORDER AND
ROLL CALL
The meeting of the Kalispell Technical Advisory Committee was
called to order at 1:30 p.m. Committee Members Present were: Tom
Jentz, Doug Russell, Ed Toavs, Marc Liechti, Dave Prunty, Gary
Engman, Cal Scott, Bob Vosen, Tim Larson, Mark Munsinger, John
Donoghue, Susie Turner, Sheila Ludlow & Ted Luehr.
APPROVAL OF THE
MINUTES
Toavs moved and Liechti seconded a motion to approve the minutes
of the September 6, 2012 TAC meeting.
VOTE BY ACCLAMATION
The motion passed unanimously on a vote by acclamation.
HEAR THE PUBLIC
Morey Grove said in his opinion Whitefish Stage Road across the
Stillwater River and out to West Reserve Drive is one of the most
heavily used roads from 2:00 pm – 9:00 pm and if the state is going
to spend money it deserves to be a priority. There is a steep bank
near the river with no guardrails, it is narrow, school buses use it and
deer cross the road and he feels there will be an accident there.
OLD BUSINESS:
None.
NEW BUSINESS:
URBAN AID PROJECT
Jentz noted the next agenda item is selecting our next urban aid
project. The Kalispell Urban Area receives about $600,000 a year
and it is intended for urban aid projects which are nominated by this
committee. Previous projects included the Highway 93 Main Street
improvements which were partly funded by urban aid funds and
completed in 1983 and North Meridian Road which was completed
in 2006/2007. Jentz added in order to complete North Meridian
Road the city had to borrow several years ahead in advance and it
took the city until 2010 to pay for it.
Since 2010 the fund has been accruing about $600,000 and the
balance is approximately $1.2 million in the bank which seems like
a lot of money until you start building a highway. In 2011 MDT
asked TAC to come up with a priority selection and Whitefish Stage
was selected from East Idaho north to West Reserve as a
placeholder. That recommendation was reevaluated and in
September of 2012 they came up with the following road
nominations that TAC thought had merited reconsideration:
Grandview Drive – US 93 to Evergreen
LaSalle Extension – Conrad Drive to LaSalle
West Reserve Drive – US 93 to US 2
Whitefish Stage Road – East Idaho to West Reserve Drive
Willow Glen Drive – Lower Valley Road to Conrad Drive
TAC had requested additional information including traffic counts
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and general costs from MDT which have been provided to the
committee members.
Jentz said in the meantime Ed Toavs of MDT came up with another
alternative in relation to the extension of Four Mile Drive from the
west end of Kidsports to Stillwater Road. The City of Kalispell had
discussions with Kidsports to work together to extend Four Mile
Drive with the majority of the funding coming from Kidsports
donations. Toavs said since Four Mile Drive is proposed to
eventually cross the Alternate Highway 93 Route if Four Mile Drive
was built prior to that time the construction would sever Four Mile
Drive and it made sense to build the road with a bridge over the
alternate route instead to save the cost of reconstruction when the
future alternate route is eventually constructed. Toavs suggested
TAC also consider this project for the urban aid funding to see if it
has merit and it was added to the list of alternatives.
Toavs noted there is a provision in the bill that addresses new
projects and limitations for urban projects that currently are not a
road and not classified. Lynn Zanto, MDT said to expend Federal
Highway funding, which the urban funds are, roads have to be
functionally classified either as a collector or an arterial route. In the
case of non-existent roads or new construction, Federal Highway
guidance does allow them to functionally classify predicted new
roads in advance of constructing them as long they can guarantee
that they will go to contract within six years. Federal Highways is
updating their functional classification guide and in their update it
reduces that timeframe to four years. To make it eligible for the
urban funds they would have to work with Federal Highways and
their Transportation Commission to functionally classify it and put it
on the Urban Highway System.
Jentz distributed photos showing the exact location of Four Mile
Drive and where the alternate route would be located.
Luehr had several questions regarding the Four Mile Drive project
funding, the need for the project, surrounding development, and the
funds Kidsports will attempt to raise, which were addressed. Luehr
said he thought this was a worthwhile project to consider.
Toavs noted he asked James Freyholtz of MDT to put together
traffic volumes for all the routes including accident data adding
there would not be any data for roads that have not yet been
constructed.
Prunty said the spreadsheet for Whitefish Stage Road didn’t
reference a bridge across the river but he assumes that one would be
built and Toavs said yes and he added to try and rehabilitate the old
bridge and tie it into a new grade wouldn’t be practical.
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James Freyholtz, MDT credited Sheila Ludlow, MDT in Helena for
putting the projection and traffic volume maps together. Freyholtz
reviewed the details of the maps for the committee and noted the
modeling corresponds with the Kalispell Transportation Plan.
Larson asked if the stats for West Reserve from Hwy 93 to Hwy 2
factored in Reserve Loop and Freyholtz said no they don’t have stats
for that connection.
Freyholtz reviewed the accident crash rates using data volumes from
2007 to 2011, which are the number of accidents per million vehicle
miles traveled and they were as follows: Willow Glen Road – 1.61;
Whitefish Stage Road – 0.78; and West Reserve Drive – 2.29, which
was the highest crash rate.
Marc Liechti asked about the LaSalle Extension that was discussed
at the last meeting and Toavs said there were concerns about that
project including the Conrad Cemetery hill, and the wetlands/
stream/ stormwater issues in front of McDonalds, behind ShopKo
and on private property. In addition, Snappy’s and Perkins would
need some mitigation because of the major R/W issues the extension
would create especially if they got the traffic volumes as suggested
on the model. Vosen added there are wetland agreements between
the owner of Snappy’s and FWP which would also make the
construction of that roadway challenging.
Luehr asked as part of the LaSalle extension if there was going to be
any work done at the intersection of Willow Glen and Conrad Drive
and Toavs said only safety work on the overhead flasher. Luehr said
he would like to see Conrad Drive come into Willow Glen at a 90
degree angle and much further south from where it currently does.
Jentz added then Conrad Drive would dead end into Willow Glen
and Willow Glen would become the continuous road and Luehr said
yes. Jentz suggested that would be considered a safety project
instead of an urban aid project. Further discussion was held.
Larson said he travels West Reserve between Hwy 2 and Hwy 93
quite a bit and if they choose not to fund this project with Urban Aid
Funds what are the alternative funding mechanisms for completing
this alternative. Jentz noted when you look at the costs of West
Reserve compared to Four Mile Drive, Four Mile Drive would be
about 2 additional years of the $600,000 urban aid funding
compared to 45 years for West Reserve. Toavs said the only other
funding eligible for that route is urban money and then state funded
construction which is even more limited. Jentz said if the
intersection of Whitefish Stage and West Reserve fails there could
be some safety money to redo that intersection and Toavs agreed.
John Donoghue asked for additional information on the meeting that
took place regarding the Four Mile Drive bridge and Jentz noted the
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city has been trying to negotiate a permanent easement on the
Kidsports property for several months. Kidsports came forward
during these discussions and stated they were interested in raising
funds to continue the development of the Kidsports facility which
would include the completion of Four Mile Drive to Stillwater Road.
Jentz continued when Toavs read that in the newspaper he came up
with the idea to add Four Mile Drive to the alternatives for Urban
Aid funds which led to the staff-level meeting to discuss that
proposal.
Donoghue asked why Four Mile Drive wasn’t a part of the bypass
construction and Jentz said the design of the alternate route always
has showed a full interchange at Four Mile Drive and Four Mile
Drive going over the top of the alternate route. Vosen added the
grades play into that too.
Marc Liechti asked what are the developers of the 3000 homes
proposed for that area contributing to the extension of Four Mile
Drive, which would benefit the developers greatly? Jentz noted there
were some conditions for improvement. Liechti asked if the traffic
counts included the traffic generated from proposed development in
this area and Kathy Harris, Stelling Engineers said the original
model was most recently created in 2005/2006 but there have been
some updates to account for the Starling subdivision and others
around the bypass.
MOTION Larson moved and Turner seconded a motion to nominate the Four
Mile Drive extension as Kalispell’s next Urban Aid Project.
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION Jentz noted they would still be looking at cost sharing for this
project and this project could be completed in about two years.
Toavs said there is one R/W issue that could cause a problem but if
that can be solved the four year time limit would not be an issue for
MDT.
Larson said he agrees with the recommendation and the benefit of
private and public monies coming together on a project that would
be beneficial to the community and could be constructed fairly soon.
Larson said it would also take relieve some traffic congestion at the
intersection of Four Mile Drive and Hwy 93 North.
Prunty asked if the improvement to Stillwater Road would be
causing a problem at the stop sign located at the intersection of
Three Mile Drive and Stillwater Road, especially during the high
traffic times that the events at Kidsports generates. Steve Herzog
added the issue seems to be traffic leaving Kidsports on weekends
not getting there. Jentz noted that route would probably be used by
people on Three Mile who are going to the college, hospital and the
shopping areas in north Kalispell. Liechti asked if improvements
would also be made to the Four Mile/Hwy 93 intersection and Toavs
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said the signal timing will have to be studied and perhaps a center
turn lane would have to be added to both Four Mile Drive and Hwy
93 North. Jentz added the extension of Four Mile Drive would
provide another direction for the traffic to leave the area. Further
discussion was held.
Harris, Stelling Engineers said the future intersection of Four Mile
Drive and Stillwater Road is one issue but the bigger issue is
Stillwater Road is going to see additional traffic with this proposed
extension and it is not in great shape right now and that will have to
be a consideration. Jentz noted the developer of the Starling
subdivision would be responsible for upgrading Stillwater Road to a
minimum three lane urban design if/when Starling takes off.
Toavs said regardless of this decision the construction of Four Mile
Drive to Reserve Loop is a stand-alone segment of the bypass but
could be tied to the extension of Four Mile Drive if the timing is
right. MDT owns all the R/W from Four Mile Drive to Reserve
Loop. Jentz said one of the major goals of TAC and the community
is getting the alternate route completed.
VOTE BY ACCLAMATION The motion passed unanimously on a vote by acclamation.
URBAN AREA BOUNDARY
MAP
Jentz noted the committee was sent a map that showed the urban
area boundary which was discussed at the September 2012 TAC
meeting. Jentz briefly reviewed the purpose of the map and the
urban funding program.
The committee agreed the urban boundary map should be as
presented should signed by the Chairman and submitted to MDT.
FLATHEAD COUNTY’S
NEXT SECONDARY ROAD
PROJECT
Prunty said the Flathead County Commissioners had four choices
for the county’s next secondary road project as follows:
West Reserve from the round-about west to Farm-to-Market
Road;
Whitefish Stage Road from ½ mile north of Reserve to
Hodgson Road;
8 mile stretch of the North Fork Road – from the end of the
oil to Camas Road; and
Montana Hwy 206 from Woody’s to the Columbia
Heights/Hwy 2 East
The commissioners selected West Reserve from the round-about to
Farm-to-Market Road and MDT said that should include bike paths
to tie into existing bike paths from West Valley School to Glacier
High School. The project could begin from five to ten years with an
estimated cost of $5 million dollars. Further discussion was held.
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MDT VARIOUS CITY,
COUNTY, STATE AND
FEDERAL HIGHWAY
PROJECTS IN THE AREA
MDT reported the following projects are slated for the Flathead
area:
Reserve to Hutton Ranch Loop w/chip sealing, final striping,
drainage and seeding;
Whitefish West Project from Lupfer to Karrow – includes a
new bridge structure and ½ mile of new roadway;
Foys Bend Stream Mitigation Project – providing bank
stabilization/rehabilitation and planting 6,000 trees and
20,000 willow cuttings;
Bigfork – slope flattening and guardrail project has been
completed;
Baker Avenue/Whitefish Stage Road;
Shady Lane Bridge structure repair;
Highway 2 East (by McDonald’s in Evergreen) storm drain
project in Spring of 2014;
Highway 2 West/Dern Road – short term safety fix is to
install an advanced warning detection system at that
intersection in late spring. The long term safety project
would be to rehabilitate that roadway;
Springcreek/Sunset intersection on Highway 2 – reconfigure
the two approaches to make them line up with one another –
to be let in September; and
Highway 35 and 206 traffic signal at Woody’s.
Overlays:
Kalispell west from Hart Hill – 4.2 miles;
Good Creek North – 5.2 miles;
Dickey Lake – 5.2 miles;
Swan River north through Bigfork that will be chipped next
summer; and
West Glacier East – 7.7 miles.
Other areas:
For those heading to Missoula starting next week there will
be short delays – safety project north of Polson in the Jette
Lake area.
Heading west to Libby there will be road construction.
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION Luehr asked if there will be a full interchange on the alternate route
at Three Mile Drive and Toavs said yes and Highway 2 West is also
set for a full interchange. Toavs added Two Mile Drive has no
connectivity to the bypass – overpass only. Luehr suggested instead
of putting a bridge over Two Mile Drive a right-on, right-off be
constructed onto the southbound side of the alternate route. Luehr
said there would be no tall grades and no bridge. Toavs said from
his standpoint they wouldn’t want to change anything and cutting
off a local road causes major concerns. Further discussion was held.
NEXT MEETING DATE Next meeting will be scheduled when necessary.
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ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at approximately 3:10 p.m.
/s/ Thomas R. Jentz /s/Michelle Anderson
Thomas R. Jentz Michelle Anderson
Chairman Recording Secretary
The minutes were approved as submitted/amended on 04/23/2013.